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« on: March 19, 2018, 06:30:44 PM »

Facts to ponder
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 In 1865, a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.

In 1881, a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States - who later
died from the wound.

In 1963, a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.

In 1975, a left wingradical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United
States.

In 1983, a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.

In 1984, James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonald's restaurant.

In 1986, Patrick Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an
Oklahoma post office.

 In 1990, James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.

In 1991, George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby's cafeteria in
Killeen, TX.

In 1995, James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.

In 1999, Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.

In 2001, a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US.

In 2003, Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a
Lockheed Martin plant.

In 2007, a registered Democrat named Seung - HuiCho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.

In 2010, a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords
and killed 6 others.

In 2011, a registered Democrat named James Holmes,
went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.

 In 2012, Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in
Minneapolis.

In 2013, a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school in Newtown, CT.

As recently as Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship yard.

 Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns. Not one NRA member, Tea Party member, or
Republican conservative was involved in any of these shootings and
murders.

SOLUTION: It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns. We don't need
gun control, we need Democrat control.

Guns don't kill people, Democrats do!

 

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Re: Gun Violence Solution
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2018, 07:42:11 PM »
Not that I wouldn't like to see it true, Snopes.com say's it's false.

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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2018, 08:21:07 PM »
Not that I wouldn't like to see it true, Snopes.com say's it's false.




I don't believe in Snopes, as who made them the last word on anything.
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2018, 09:08:47 PM »
Not that I wouldn't like to see it true, Snopes.com say's it's false.

I don't believe in Snopes, as who made them the last word on anything.

 John Wilkes Booth was a well known anarchist, not a Democrat.

John Hinkley was a certifiable nut case, I’m not sure any party affiliation would matter.
Jared Loughner was another nut case and registered as an Arizona Independent (which at the time was ~ Liberitarian / Constitutional party. We were there at the time and the Tucson Democrats tried to paint him as a Republican which he was not. )

I can’t speak for the rest but these guys are not as painted.

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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2018, 10:23:27 PM »
If you don’t trust Snoopes, there are several other websites with which to check Internet “facts”.
https://www.factcheck.org/2018/03/meme-falsely-claims-exposed-snopes-com/
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2018, 10:51:58 PM »
busykngt,

I don't trust "snopes" either as that site is controlled by FAR LEFT DIMocRATS.

That said, I don't know which "fact checker" to trust, if any.

yours, satx
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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2018, 12:39:03 AM »
I don't know which "fact checker" to trust, if any.

satx, then you’re raising the much larger question of, “what is truth?” - especially with regard to any & all information that’s conveyed via the Internet.  Eventually, society has a way of “working out” that question.  What becomes the popular overwhelmingly accepted point of view is what history generally records as “truth”. 
The Allied Powers defeated the Axis Powers in WW2 - overwhelmingly accepted as truth.  A single, lone shooter (Oswald) shot and killed Pres. Kennedy - generally accepted as truth (but not by all).  The U.S. landed a man on the moon in 1969 - most accept as truth (but a quick look at YouTube and you’ll find plenty of “conspiracy theorist” who don’t accept that “fact” as “truth”). 
In the absence of “absolute proof” (which is at the core of the very topic being discussed) how does one convince or persuade another, what truth is?  I once had an ex- who was an absolute bi~*h.... however, I never could convince her of that “fact”!
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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2018, 08:18:15 AM »
WW2 makes an interesting read when you compare the Chinese and US versions at their respective war museums.

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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2018, 08:55:04 AM »
And I’m sure that point of view was driven, in large part, by the Nationalist (Chiang Kai-shak) being defeated by the Communist (Mao Zedong) after the war.  Kind of like the old saying of “the victor writes the history” - that’s what becomes the “truth” to the society. 

Easy to criticize Snoopes and other internet ‘fact checkers’ as being biased, but they do a fairly decent job of dispelling at least the most blatant of internet falsehoods (during the moment at hand).  And whether you believe them or not, the passage of time will ultimately settle the question as to what society accepted as “the truth”.

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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2018, 11:21:26 AM »
+1 busyknight.
(The main theme at the Chinese museum @ Tienamen Square was the poor Chinese struggle against the mighty Imperial Japanese. (Even though the Chinese outnumbered the Japs about 10:1).

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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2018, 12:46:59 PM »
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remember the movie "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" ..... and the line that went "When The Legend Becomes Fact, Print the Legend" ..... ?

all this sorta "stuff" makes for interesting reading, it's up to the individual to enjoy, or not
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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2018, 12:57:36 PM »
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remember the movie "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" ..... and the line that went "When The Legend Becomes Fact, Print the Legend" ..... ?

all this sorta "stuff" makes for interesting reading, it's up to the individual to enjoy, or not

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Makes you wander what % of the information in the world is accurate...

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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2018, 07:17:11 PM »
If you want to see an interesting spin on the Truth, you should try The War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon). Just about everything there is verified by the US media and the World Press articles..  Of course there's no mention of North Vietnamese bad deeds and  atrocities. He who wins the war gets to write its history.
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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2018, 07:42:39 PM »
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I don't trust "snopes" either as that site is controlled by FAR LEFT DIMocRATS.
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And your undisputable source for that is..........?
Do you also believe the US faked the moon landing and 911 was actually controlled demolition?

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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2018, 09:22:07 PM »
TXAZ,

Check out WHO owns "snopes" & then compare those names to the FEC records of financial donations. = MANY large donations to LEFTIST candidates/causes but NONE to moderate or conservative groups. = QED in my opinion.
(FEC records are open to public inspection.)
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« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2018, 10:19:25 PM »
Yes, I did read a story about the people behind Snopes a few years back. Since then, I don't give them that much credence anymore

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« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2018, 10:38:47 PM »
I have not found Snoopes to be wrong (as in, incorrect) in their direct answers to questions. TRUE, FALSE, Partially True, etc. 
Where I do begin to take issue with them (on occasion), is the “explanation” they offer up - as if to justify their answer.  They can put a certain “spin” to an explanation that doesn’t seem to be a very balanced approach.  Perhaps this is to be attributed more to the individual writer answering the question.
But since I’m typically looking to find out if something is true or not true, I tend to care less as to the “why” of it.  If I have doubts, I’ll check another site or two - that tends to be a waste of time, since they’ll have rated it TRUE or FALSE with the answer as matches Snoopes.  I can’t even remember when I last found two legitimate fact checking sites that provided differing basic answers.
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« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2018, 10:54:57 PM »
It’s amazing how dogmatic some can be.   
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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2018, 06:45:02 AM »
Funny thing folks will dispute KNOWN events ie Kennedy Moon Landing etc things backed by actual evidence.

Yet these same folks will unquestionably accept the BIBLE as true and factual with out even a second thought.


To me THAT is just unfathomable.

Blindly accept the “book” as true yet 99% of whats written in it can not be backed up by any real evidence.

 


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« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2018, 10:09:04 AM »
Faith is faith.

To the believer, it doesn’t require a direct linkage to “proof”.  The belief is the fact.
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