DCD, if you tell anybody I'll deny it. But I'm a bit scared to fire it with the suppressor. The kick now is pretty manageable. The suppressor has 2 settings: Maximum quiet, totally removes the 1/2 muzzle brake for you get the full kick. The other is less quiet, but has a 1/2 muzzle brake. I think I found a Marine to give it a try. We'll see, I'm too old to crack my shoulder.