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Charging Grizzly killed with 9mm
« on: August 11, 2016, 09:24:36 AM »
https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2016/8/10/alaska-outfitter-defends-fishermen-from-raging-grizzly-with-9mm-pistol/

Impressive.Training, remaining calm and being confident in your marksmanship wins the day. Smallest pistol caliber I would take into grizzly country would be 44 mag or 45 LC.

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Two days ago I was guiding a couple from NY on a fishing trip and decided to pack my S&W 3954 pistol . When we were approaching the stream we bumped into a large boar who must have been sleeping as we were talking loud just so we wouldn't suprise one.  Over the past 33 years I have lived and guided here on the Alaska peninsula I have never had to kill a bear in defense of life but this bear was different. 

We were in thick brush and I was only 8 or 10 feet from the bear when he started growling and huffing.  I began yelling and it eventually ran  around, behind my two clients, into the brush.  But within 15 seconds it came charging back from the area behind us and popped out of the brush 10 feet from me !   I had the little S&W in my hands and was thinking I was probably going to have to shoot it but as it cleared the brush it headed toward my clients.  The man had enough sense to grab his wife and fall backwards into the tall grass.  The bear seemed to loose track of them, even though it was less than 3 feet away from them and it was highly agitated !  It then swung toward me, I was 6 or 8 feet away, and I fired the first shot into the area between the head and shoulder.  It growled and started wildly thrashing around, still basically on the feet of my clients. My next shot hit it in the shoulder and it began twisting and biting at the hits and I continued firing as fast as I could see vitals. Five shots later it turned into the brush and I hit it again and it twisted and fell 20 feet from us ! 

We hiked out and I flew back to camp to report the incident to F&G and pick up my daughter to go back and skin the bear for F&G.

You are the first person I  have told this story to as I haven't decided whether to write it up or not, or where, but thought you should know that your ammo WORKS.   We recovered 4 of the bullets and I took a photo of the back of the bear after the hide was removed that shows an entry on one side of the back and the tip of the bullet on the off side ...

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Re: Charging Grizzly killed with 9mm
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2016, 10:55:19 AM »
https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2016/8/10/alaska-outfitter-defends-fishermen-from-raging-grizzly-with-9mm-pistol/

Impressive.Training, remaining calm and being confident in your marksmanship wins the day. Smallest pistol caliber I would take into grizzly country would be 44 mag or 45 LC.

The smallest pistol caliber I'd take into grizzly country would be something belt-fed and crew-served.  Love Buffalo Bore stuff.  I use their 158 gr. lead semi-Wad Cutter HP in non +P for an old snubby in .38 Spec. 
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Re: Charging Grizzly killed with 9mm
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2016, 11:34:33 AM »
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Re: Charging Grizzly killed with 9mm
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2016, 12:41:48 PM »
IF I had to take on an angry/hungry Grizzly with a handgun, it would be with my 1927 S&W Brazilian, .45 Auto Rim with a 255 grain Keith lead bullet in front of 6 grains of Unique.

That said, I'd prefer  a max load of 000 buck out of my old pump-gun to keep him out of my lap.

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Re: Charging Grizzly killed with 9mm
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2016, 01:01:34 PM »
If I was in grizzly country, I'd have a 44 Ruger Alaskan, probably. I've always liked the way that gun looks, and would be a good caliber for that.

I did read a story a year or two back about someone taking out a bear with a 40 cal Glock. But I think he emptied the magazine into the bear.

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Re: Charging Grizzly killed with 9mm
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2016, 01:46:29 PM »
Saw a video of a guy on a snow mobile taking out a charging moose with a .40 cal glock.

Makes me think that multiple accurate shots can make up for handguns being relatively anemic.
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Re: Charging Grizzly killed with 9mm
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2016, 02:42:18 PM »
For me it would be hard to shoot backwards while I'm running away and trying to trip the other guy at the same time.  Just saying

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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2016, 03:04:55 PM »
For me it would be hard to shoot backwards while I'm running away and trying to trip the other guy at the same time.  Just saying



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Re: Charging Grizzly killed with 9mm
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2016, 07:11:06 PM »
BEAR COUNTRY?????? Wouldn't be there!!!
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Re: Charging Grizzly killed with 9mm
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2016, 12:15:42 AM »
To All,

Given the choice, I'd choke him on heel dust & toe gravel, retreating at TOP SPEED.

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Re: Charging Grizzly killed with 9mm
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2016, 09:25:11 PM »
This guy was totally lucky but then again he knew what he was doing. My uncle who was a rancher in Montana before he passed always had his Marlin 45-70 Lever rifle over any handgun. He told me that is what he had when doing his ranch rounds on the cattle in case grizzlies showed up. He never wanted to carry a handgun and only said they were a waste of time if a grizzly charges.

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Re: Charging Grizzly killed with 9mm
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2016, 10:28:37 PM »
This is just a horrible story.  :th_thicon_idea:  The magnum fanboys  will be just pulling their hair out and wringing their hands over a puny little worthless 9mm taking down a mad bear.    :bangheadonwall:

Thats just impossible.   :th_nuts:

Wash your mouth out with soap.  :P
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Re: Charging Grizzly killed with 9mm
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2016, 12:39:11 AM »
I'd prefer to have the odds on my side: Boomer, with Raufoss rounds. 

That would work. 
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Re: Charging Grizzly killed with 9mm
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2016, 09:05:13 AM »
Well, first I would strike my mostly manly pose which will most likely intimidate the bear into retreating.  If the bear did charge I would do a couple of backflips to give me some room, and then I would jump over the bear.  As I came down behind it I would grab it in a sleeper-hold and simply put it to sleep.

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Re: Charging Grizzly killed with 9mm
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2016, 11:55:52 AM »
Well, first I would strike my mostly manly pose which will most likely intimidate the bear into retreating.  If the bear did charge I would do a couple of backflips to give me some room, and then I would jump over the bear.  As I came down behind it I would grab it in a sleeper-hold and simply put it to sleep.
I'd pay to see that!  Let us know how that works out for ya'.
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Re: Charging Grizzly killed with 9mm
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2016, 01:45:48 PM »
Well, first I would strike my mostly manly pose which will most likely intimidate the bear into retreating.  If the bear did charge I would do a couple of backflips to give me some room, and then I would jump over the bear.  As I came down behind it I would grab it in a sleeper-hold and simply put it to sleep.
I'd pay to see that!  Let us know how that works out for ya'.

I usually get a real twist on 'em with the ol' Nr. 4 Chicken Wing move...
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Re: Charging Grizzly killed with 9mm
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2016, 07:50:45 PM »
Not sure I'd want those parts of my body that close to its head....and teeth.