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Re: Home defense
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2019, 10:19:05 AM »
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now you're gettin' into the ridiculousness of the matter - of course we all (?) have firearms.....just in case - my point, simply, was to say that the odds of anyone of us having to fire anything inside the house are practically nil.....but, that said, the possibility/probably of hearing loss (to "some" degree) wouldn't be a "pre-shoot" issue

why is it that you can't accept and choose to dispute some of the dB readings that I posted ?  I think, well I won't say what I think  :bangheadonwall:
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Re: Home defense
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2019, 10:44:17 AM »
Well, because I have heard some of these weapons fired indoors. I've also fired 9mm 2x indoors without hearing protection. I know what that sounds like.

Then, I have heard some of these other weapons fired at an indoor range WITH hearing protection, but you can still judge it against 9mm handguns fired right around the same time. I still say I'd rather have 9mm than the other weapons inside. Just my opinion from my experience and the effects of how the 9mm affected me afterwards. I don't need a chart for that

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Re: Home defense
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2019, 12:31:05 PM »
I'd use the Shockwave for home defense but first I'd put in an OPSol Mini-Clip. (made in Texas) It allows the reliable use of Aguila mini-shells which still have more punch than my .45. Might reduce the chance of blowing out my ear drums indoors.
I had the 12ga Shockwave and bought the mini shells and the adapter. To me, my experience, was that the mini shells were more of a novelty than any thing I would trust for self defense but, of course, it beats having nothing. Very underwhelmed and disappointed in the performance of mini shell buckshot. Worked great with some 2 3/4 #4 buckshot. Had it by my bed for a year or so but recently sold it to a young man that really wanted it. Now have my trusty old Stoeger SXS coach gun in the corner
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Re: Home defense
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2019, 10:00:17 PM »
I keep a remi 870 pump loaded with 00 buck. But its not the 1st thing I would grab for indoors. But if Im going outside, I grab it. 4 legged critters are a bigger threat here mostly. Not much can argue with that setup.
I dont know if Id wanna pull the trigger on a 12 gauge shotgun inside at night. 3' inch magnums high brass 00 buck. That would be rather loud. The noise would have you instantly deaf, and probably also flash blind for a bit.

My JR Carbine 9mm would probably be my first inside choice. 17 round mags, not much louder than a 22 lr. No muzzle flash to speak of. I think a guy could stand shooting it inside and still hear and see pretty good. Its also set up with a night scope and green laser lights. Its also always kept loaded and handy.
I just nailed a coyote a couple weeks ago with it at night shooting off an enclosed/roofed  porch. . No ear plugs and neither the noise or flash were a problem.
 
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Re: Home defense
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2019, 02:53:36 AM »
my point, simply, was to say that the odds of anyone of us having to fire anything inside the house are practically nil.....

The odds of YOU having to fire your gun inside your house are practically nil, maybe, what with you (IIRC) living out in the middle of nowhere on Green Acres now. Not all the rest of us are so fortunate as to be removed from the inner city nonsense, where the risk is much higher.

We've had at least one live-fire incident here already (back when Gilgondorin was still wee and not old enough to be the one responsible for home defense), and multiple near-misses since then, not counting three narrowly averted stray dog attacks that technically don't count in this discussion only because the shootings would have happened outside, and we're talking interior noise levels.

why is it that you can't accept and choose to dispute some of the dB readings that I posted ?  I think, well I won't say what I think  :bangheadonwall:

I respectfully submit the following:

Neither of the two lists you referenced are very useful without more relevant data; the rankings don't list the specifics of each handgun as they were tested -- only that it was a '9MM pistol', and I'm not familiar with that particular model; would it happen to be a cousin of the urbanite Gangster's favorite "Glock Fawty", by any chance? Because if not, I would like to point out that there are 9MM sub-compact pistols in addition to standard length, competition length, and even 9MM stockless AR pistols with, like, 10" barrels out there.

However, I've had the misfortune of shooting on an indoor range next to a guy using hot ammo in a home-built SBAR-15 with a 14" barrel and no muzzle brake -- that was free and away far louder than any one of the three 9MM pistols my group and I were shooting with that day.... My point being that a perceived difference in loudness is not only plausible but probable, and changes based on powder charge and/or barrel length. Example: an M91/30 and an M44 both fire the same identical cartridge... But where the M91/30 has the reputation of kicking like a mule, the M44 with its 9" shorter barrel is the one best known for sounding like thunder yelling through a megaphone.

but, that said, the possibility/probably of hearing loss (to "some" degree) wouldn't be a "pre-shoot" issue

On this, I have no problems agreeing with you... But then again, the solution to the problem of going deaf after shooting at somebody in a life or death situation indoors seems relatively easy... Drape a pair of ear muffs around your shotgun, hang them off a nail driven into one side of your the bedside table, or if you have something like this hanging over/next to your bed, replace the hats on the hat-peg with ear muffs:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8f/3e/ff/8f3eff15311047f4358f6e2c72086b2f.jpg

Problem solved -- provided you're not a heavy enough sleeper the guy is already inside your bedroom door drawing down on you by the time you wake up, and we have two yappy barking machines to help with that.
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Re: Home defense
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2019, 09:18:01 AM »
In the very unlikely off chance, that I have to fire off a firearm within my home, it would be under dire circumstances that it's a life or death situation. I would sacrifice any, or all hearing, in defense of my life or my loved ones.
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