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I have a 10 Cadillac Sts V-6.  It took 8 trips to 2 dealers and 1 private shop to get it fixed.  It was throwing the Same code P2099 every time I brought it in.  The 2nd dealer fixed it after 4 trips to him.  I paid over 1400 dollars to fix symptoms.1st dealer wanted to replace entire Fuel system at my cost from pump in tank to injectors . I did not have them do this because I thought it was a scam.  private shop replaced a spark plug (i thought that was a symptom )  but I am nothing but a shade tree mechanic.  after 4 trips to the 2nd dealer i replacement of a o2 sensor. the other 2 times some hoses.  I wont say what the dealer did a forth time to fix it. If anyone gets it right I will buy them a sick pack of their favorite beer.  One guess per person only licensed mechanics please.

Instal trailer hitch, buy small boat and hit the accelerator instead of brake while launching said boat... Problem solved...

I gave up shade tree mechanicing when you spent half the day taking the car apart just reach your part... They need to make the design engineers, turn wrenches on em first..

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P0601.

I would have thought the diag code would be ID10T ;)
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P0601.

I would have thought the diag code would be ID10T ;)

You look up what P0601 is?   :th_thicon_lol:
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I have a 10 Cadillac Sts V-6.  It took 8 trips to 2 dealers and 1 private shop to get it fixed.  It was throwing the Same code P2099 every time I brought it in.  The 2nd dealer fixed it after 4 trips to him.  I paid over 1400 dollars to fix symptoms.1st dealer wanted to replace entire Fuel system at my cost from pump in tank to injectors . I did not have them do this because I thought it was a scam.  private shop replaced a spark plug (i thought that was a symptom )  but I am nothing but a shade tree mechanic.  after 4 trips to the 2nd dealer i replacement of a o2 sensor. the other 2 times some hoses.  I wont say what the dealer did a forth time to fix it. If anyone gets it right I will buy them a sick pack of their favorite beer.  One guess per person only licensed mechanics please.



I'm always down for counter diagnostics.  Lol. 

The ONLY time I've ever even seen a P2099 was on a Pontiac or Buick, I can't recall which.  It had a small exhaust leak that was sucking in air after the front 02 sensor, causing the rear 02 sensor to set this code. 
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P0601.

I would have thought the diag code would be ID10T ;)

You look up what P0601 is?   :th_thicon_lol:

I thought it was P60101;;;;

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P0601.

I would have thought the diag code would be ID10T ;)

You look up what P0601 is?   :th_thicon_lol:

Quick glance looks like a PCM memory checksum so I would suspect it matters a bit.
I was going for tossing a code at those who don't believe anything needs real diagnosis.
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Lol. P0601 = Brain Dead.


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Lol. P0601 = Brain Dead.

Ahah now it works
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My mechanic is like family to me.  I worked for him for 5 years.  He taught me more about honesty and accountability than anyone else in my entire life.  He is honest to a fault, and never EVER lets the customer eat a mechanics mistake.  One time, when I first started working for him I broke two wheel studs off of a 1 ton dodge.  I suggested that they weren't terribly expensive, and that we roll those into the customers bill.  I lost his mind, threw his phone across the shop where it exploded into tiny pieces.  I got to explain to the customer that I broke the parts, and that I replaced them on my personal dime and time.  At the end of the week when we tallied up all my flag hour credits, and subtracted all my deductions I paid for half of his phone too.  He still lets me use his shop when I need to work on my cars and lets me have parts at his cost.  I owe much of my morals and integrity to him.  He helped me grow up in ways that were painful to me at the time, and I'll always be in his debt.  You ever need a good mechanic in Cypress/Tomball/Magnolia...I have the guy for you!
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I have a 10 Cadillac Sts V-6.  It took 8 trips to 2 dealers.....  One guess per person only licensed mechanics please.

I will assume a misfire code was being thrown also which is why one shop replaced a spark plug. So we have misfire and rich codes. If the misfire and rich codes were on the same bank I would perform an injector balance. Suspect being an internally leaking injector on cylinder with misfire code.

If all injectors dropped the same PSI, I would scope coil on misfire cylinder and compare waveform to a coil later in firing order. Suspect being weak primary/secondary ignition that is possibly failing under load.

These couple checks could be done in around 10-15 minutes. Even if no fault was found, I verified some base systems are working correctly at the moment.

If no trouble was found I would print out a flow chart, flip my cap around backwards & dive in.

(Don't know for a fact you could run an Injector Balance on that engine via Tech II/MODIS/etc. I assume you could with it wearing a GM badge)

Now I'm curious and hitting up Google to see if your problem is common!

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Re: Do You Ever Wonder If Your Vehicle Repair Shop Is Ripping You Off?
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2015, 02:15:55 PM »
My daughter is dealing with this. She ran into another car on a wet road. Smashed up her front end. The VW dealership fixes it up and gets paid. The next day her check engine light comes on. She takes it back they clear the code (coolant related) 2 days later it's back on. She takes it back, same thing they clear the code telling her nothing is wrong. The light comes back on. Now she has to get it inspected and can't because the light is on. They sent someone to her last week. They cleared the code, yet again. Now it's back on.

They don't want to fix the problem and just keep jerking her around.

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Re: Do You Ever Wonder If Your Vehicle Repair Shop Is Ripping You Off?
« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2015, 02:19:04 PM »
VW with a coolant related code? P0128?
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Re: Do You Ever Wonder If Your Vehicle Repair Shop Is Ripping You Off?
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2015, 02:35:35 PM »
VW with a coolant related code? P0128?

Not sure of the code. Just that it has something to do with the coolant. That's what the VW tech has told her twice and she had it checked at autozone.
Since the radiator was replaced and it wasn't on before I don't think shes wrong to ask them to find and fix the problem.

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Re: Do You Ever Wonder If Your Vehicle Repair Shop Is Ripping You Off?
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2015, 05:09:18 PM »
VW with a coolant related code? P0128?

Not sure of the code. Just that it has something to do with the coolant. That's what the VW tech has told her twice and she had it checked at autozone.
Since the radiator was replaced and it wasn't on before I don't think shes wrong to ask them to find and fix the problem.

A good vw forum. http://forums.vwvortex.com/ and a great vw forum for diesel but have general stuff too https://www.tdiclub.com/

research here and educate yourself VW dealerships are typically thought of poorly. If you in Houston this is the guy I use http://dasautohaustx.com/ He take in VW work from other European shops so just go to the source, lol.

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Re: Do You Ever Wonder If Your Vehicle Repair Shop Is Ripping You Off?
« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2015, 12:29:36 PM »
I have a 10 Cadillac Sts V-6.  It took 8 trips to 2 dealers.....  One guess per person only licensed mechanics please.

They ended up replacing all the fuel injectors .  I guess they did not want to take a chance and only replace a few . plus it was under warranty so GM paid for it