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I like innovative firearms, revolvers and the .22 magnum round but this one.....I don't know. Would like to shoot it though.

General Gun Discussion / At the indoor range today
« on: January 09, 2019, 09:48:41 PM »
Wife and I went to the local indoor range today. Wife hadn't shot her Bersa .380 in a few months and I also brought along three .38 SP revolvers including my EDC Colt Detective Special and my Hi Power.
As Ship and a couple of others on this forum can attest too this range has no ambient light but more than enough artificial light to shoot out to the fifty foot limit. I shot my Colt first and had real trouble lining up the front blade. Was all over place at twenty feet. Not much better with with my 3" LCRx. Wife say's I would probably do better if I took off my sunglasses. :icon_redface: Prescription Ray Bans. Took them off and put on my regular specs. Much better.
Wife puts a magazine down range.

Went home popped a beer and took a nap.


Gun News & Laws / I don't always agree with Judge A. Napalitono
« on: January 05, 2019, 04:33:07 PM »
But I'll make an exception here:
Most of the mass killings by guns in the United States in recent years — Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora, Newtown, Charleston, San Bernardino and Orlando — took place in venues where local or state law prohibited carrying guns, even by those lawfully licensed to do so. The government cheerfully calls these venues “gun-free zones.” They should be called killing zones.
After a while, these events cease to shock; but they should not cease to cause us to re-examine what the government has done to us.
We know from reason, human nature, and history that the right to defend yourself is a natural instinct that is an extension of the right to self-preservation, which is itself derived from the right to live. Life is the great gift from the Creator, and we have a duty to exercise our freedoms to preserve life until its natural expiration. But the lives we strive to preserve should not be those actively engaged in killing innocent life.

The Framers recognized this when they ratified the Second Amendment, which the Supreme Court recently held was written to codify — and thus, prevent the government from infringing on — the pre-political right to own and use modern-day weapons for self-defense or to repel tyrants.

The term “pre-political” derives from the language of the Second Amendment, which protects “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms.” The constitutional reference of “the” right to keep and bear arms makes clear that the Framers recognized that the right pre-existed the government because it stems from our humanity. That’s why pre-political rights are known as fundamental or natural rights.

Because the right to use modern weaponry for the defense of life, liberty and property are natural, we should not need a government permission slip before exercising it, any more than we need one to exercise other natural rights, such as speech, press, assembly, travel and privacy.

Yet since the Progressive era 100 years ago — ushered in by Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson and enabled by nearly every president since — the government has taken the position that it can care for us better than we can care for ourselves. So it has severely curtailed our rights and left us reliant on the government itself for protection.

The modern-day massacres are proof beyond a doubt that the government cannot protect us.

In the Orlando tragedy, for example, the man who killed 49 and wounded 53 used a handgun and a rifle. The handgun accepted magazines containing 17 bullets, and the rifle accepted magazines containing 30 bullets. The killer, using both weapons, fired more than 250 times that Sunday morning. That means he reloaded his weapons about a dozen times. Each time he reloaded, he stopped shooting, as it is impossible for any person to shoot and reload simultaneously.

The modern-day massacres are proof beyond a doubt that the government cannot protect us.

We know from forensics that the killer was a poor shot. We can deduce from that knowledge that he was a slow reloader. One learns to shoot first and reload later. It is likely that it took between three and seven seconds each time he reloaded the handgun and longer with the rifle. In those time periods, any trained person carrying a handgun in that Orlando nightclub could have wounded or killed him — and stopped the slaughter.

Don’t expect to hear that argument from the gun control crowd in the government. It is the same crowd that has given us the killing zones. It is the same crowd that does not trust you to protect yourself.

Hillary Clinton called the rifle the Orlando killer carried a “weapon of war.” It is not. It is the same rifle that her Secret Service detail carries. Many of her acolytes have called it an assault rifle. It is not. It fires one round for each trigger pull. True assault rifles — not those that the politicians have renamed assault rifles because they have a collapsible stock and a bayonet holder (I know this sounds ridiculous, but it's true) — fire numerous rounds per trigger pull. They have been outlawed on U.S. soil since 1934.

What do we have here?

We have a government here that is heedless of its obligation to protect our freedoms. We have a government that, in its lust to have us reliant upon it, has created areas in the U.S. where innocent folks living their lives in freedom are made defenseless prey to monsters — as vulnerable as fish in a barrel. And we have mass killings of defenseless innocents — over and over and over again.

We have a government here that is heedless of its obligation to protect our freedoms. We have a government that, in its lust to have us reliant upon it, has created areas in the U.S. where innocent folks living their lives in freedom are made defenseless prey to monsters — as vulnerable as fish in a barrel. And we have mass killings of defenseless innocents — over and over and over again.

How dumb are these politicians who want to remove the right to self-defense? There are thousands of crazies in the U.S. who are filled with hate — whether motivated by politics, self-loathing, religion or fear. If they want to kill, they will find a way to do so. The only way to stop them is by superior firepower. Disarming their law-abiding victims not only violates the natural law and the Constitution but also is contrary to all reason.

All these mass killings have the same ending: The killer stops only when he is killed. But that requires someone else with a gun to be there. Shouldn’t that be sooner rather than later?

Adapted from Judge Andrew Napolitano’s monologue on Fox Nation’s “Liberty File.”

Off Topic Discussion (NON FIREARM RELATED) / Merry Christmas to All
« on: December 24, 2018, 11:23:18 AM »
Eat, drink and make merry.

 “Christmas is a necessity. There has to be at least one day of the year to remind us that we’re here for something else besides ourselves.” ―Eric Sevareid

Handguns and Revolvers / Smith & Wesson Military and Police Pre Model 10
« on: December 14, 2018, 04:08:41 PM »
I know a lot of you aren't into older revolvers like I am but I really like the "pinned" barrel Smith's especially if they are in .38 Special. This 5 screw model was manufactured in 1949. It has some holster wear in the usual places, the internals and bore are excellent, Magna Diamond grips are perfect, speed hammer has nice case coloring and the screws have no nicks or turned edges. Can't wait to get it to the range. A&M starts their  Christmas break Monday so I can probably have the range to myself for the next couple of weeks.
An added bonus is it came with a period correct holster.

General Gun Discussion / A little something for a slow, cold rainy day
« on: December 07, 2018, 05:59:40 PM »

My sons department recently authorized the use of the PSA AR 15 Carbine in .556 or .300 ACC Blackout as a patrol rifle. I always want the best for my boy so I ordered one in 300 BO for Christmas last Wednesday and it arrived Friday. Free shipping, comes with, Shockwave adjustable brace, one mag, Picatinny rail upper and MLOK lower. I'm plan on buying a tactical soft case and a couple of extra mags but he's on his own about any red dot, glass or anything else he wants to put on it. It's pretty dang nice for $550 and I'm thinking of picking one up for myself.

General Gun Discussion / CZ P-09 9 mm 19+1 capacity for $342 + Shipping
« on: October 27, 2018, 07:31:15 PM »
Saw this earlier today. You have to put it in your cart to see the price. Smokin' deal IMO.

Selling some I haven't shot in awhile or no longer want.
Ruger SP 101 .327 Federal Magnum with 3" barrel. I bought this a few months ago and have shot 30 rounds through it. It will shoot .32 S&W Long Colt, .32 H&R Magnum and .327 Federal Magnum. It comes with two speed loaders and original hard case, original grips and a set of Pachmayr rubber grips.

Beretta 84FS Cheetah .380 Double Stack magazine. I would say the overall condition is good. Some holster wear and flecking on the inside of the grip. Shoots true but has a feather light trigger. No box or paperwork Includes extra magazine. Sold


I also have a few long guns I want to sell. EMail if interested and I will provide photos

Norinco SKS 7.62 x 39 carbine with bayonet. This is a nice shooter. Great brush or hog rifle. 150 Rds of Ammo. I have a Federal C&R License so for this firearm I must have name and address for my log book and records. Soft case included. 1967 manufacture. $350

Yugo (Serbia) M48 7.92 x 57 mm/ 8mm.Mauser. 1948 first year production model all numbers matching with the good hardwood, full crest and all machined, not stamped, steel parts.The wood is excellent as is the barrel. The Mauser action is crisp and locks up tight.This is a nice rifle. Comes with attached cleaning rod, 20 rds of ammo and a soft case. In all the time I've had it I've put maybe 20-30 rounds through it. Will need address and name of buyer to fulfill my C&R license requirements.

Stevens/Savage Model 200 in .300 Win Mag. Synthetic stock no box or scope. Won at a raffle four or five years ago and have put exactly tree rounds through it. 17 rds of Winchester Super X 150 grain goes with it.

EMail: if interested.

General Gun Discussion / Was I wrong for this?
« on: October 18, 2018, 06:45:27 PM »
I have been selling firearms on a local forum for several years. Yesterday I listed a S&W Model 25-13 for sale and a young guy, probably a college student as he told me he had been in class all day, responded and made a offer that was insultingly less than the asking price. After telling him I wouldn't consider it we came to a mutual agreement on the sale. Then he  added this. He wanted me to meet him at a local gun range, pay the range fees, let him shoot some of my ammo (.45 LC is expensive) and then he would make a decision.
WTF. I responded that this must be his first attempt at buying a firearm on line. Told him how it's supposed work. Agree on a price and a place to meet and then take care of business. Don't like the look of the firearm don't buy. No harm no foul. If you buy a gun at a gun show you don't get a test drive and I'm not even going to consider incurring extra costs with the possibility of him crawfishing on the deal. Told him the price we agreed on was still on the table. Haven't heard back.
BTW i'm cleaning out my safe of firearms I no longer want or haven't fired in a while. In the next day or so I'll will post in classifieds.


Off Topic Discussion (NON FIREARM RELATED) / Tango has a birthday
« on: October 17, 2018, 02:27:47 PM »
The BIG 8-0. Happy Birthday Bill!

Have two so I'm going to sell one to finance another project. It's "pinned" manufactured in 1979 and in VG condition with a barely noticeable turn ring. No holster wear. All original with original grips, box and paperwork.
On line prices are all over the place. From  $400 (which I thinks is low) to $800+ which may or may not be too high. I'm usually pretty good at pricing firearms I put up for sale but this one has me stumped.
If it helps I paid $300 for it about 10 years ago.

General Gun Discussion / Gun range dumbazz
« on: October 08, 2018, 01:54:22 PM »

Cars, Trucks, Bikes, Atvs / Thought my luck ran out yesterday
« on: October 07, 2018, 05:14:53 PM »
My wife travels from College Station to Copperas Cove a couple of times a month and the gas mileage in her Cadillac SRX was less than 20 miles per gallon and that's highway driving. About two weeks ago we started shopping around for a replacement and found this.

Bought it Friday. 2018 Hyundai Tuscon with 1K on the odometer. What attracts me to Hyundai's is the five year 60K mile bumper to bumper warranty and 10 year 100k mile warranty on the drive train. This is the third one we have bought in the last 15 years and the previous two, including the Genesis I have now, have been trouble free. One of the features on the new one I like is the 4 cylinder turbo charged engine mated with a seven speed auto transmission. It's deceptively quick. On line reviews say 0-60 at five seconds.
I haven't been stopped by the police or had a ticket in over twenty years. In that time I've had two Corvettes and a Shelby GT and tend do a little spirited driving on open roads. Yesterday I was in the new SUV and opened it up a bit while heading to the feeder of Hwy 6. You know it. Dang cops in their Explorers with the low profile emergency lights. Busted good no doubt about it. 50 in a 40. All I could do was smile and rely on my good looks to get me out of it. Turns out I didn't have to. Young officer walks up and as I hand him my "papers" he says  "Hey I know you. You used to work in the communications bubble at the Sheriff's Office and your son is a county deputy. I said yeah that's me. So we BS'd for a few minutes, got a warning and was told to slow my old ass down. 10-4 young man. I went and bought two lotto tickets after that for the 500 million Mega Millions drawing on Tuesday. My luck is strong  :P

I signed up for one of the first classes offered in my area held in the VFW hall. This was either late '95 or early '96 can't remember. I used a 9mm Ruger P89 DC with a 12 lb. trigger. Didn't do to bad for it being damn cold.

Out of all the firearms you have bought, accumulated, gifted to you had the best and worst triggers?
For me the worst: Ruger P89 DC in 9mm that I bought about 30 years ago. I'm going to say 15 lbs. but that's being generous. Loved the gun though. Built like a tank.
Next up: The Beretta 84 FS double stack .380 I bought used a couple of years ago. Probably the lightest trigger on any firearm that I have shot. Scary light. I like the pistol though.
Best: Two snubs I have. A Colt Detective Special in .38 Sp. (my EDC) and a Model 36 late 1950's era .38 Sp. snub. In D/A and S/A just perfect for me.
Honorable Mention Worst: Ruger LCR snub in .22 magnum: I understand that rim fire pistols need a fairly heavy trigger but it was way to heavy for me for decent follow up shots.
Honorable Mention Best: FM Hi Power. Wolff Spring kit helped it a lot.

Off Topic Discussion (NON FIREARM RELATED) / This guys an idiot
« on: September 10, 2018, 03:30:54 PM »

The video is about twenty seconds
I have comments but don't want spoil it for everyone

Gun News & Laws / Levi-Strauss jumps on the anti 2A bandwagon
« on: September 05, 2018, 09:17:22 AM »

Along with Nike you can add Levi/Dockers as business's that will never again see my money. I do like Dockers but I can live without. Many other quality brands out there.

And they have no one to blame but themselves for pandering to liberal pundits.  :th_thicon_cry:


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