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Im so F’ing tired of hearing about white privilege and racists language

NAACP
NNCF

What “strictly anglo” college fund or advancement group do anglos have.

There are more racists to be found among people of color than there are among anglos.

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And thanks to obummer, its 10 times as bad as it was before that racist nitwit and his racist manwife was elected too.

The media and hollywood dove right in as fast as they could re write history, and continue to beat a dead horse. EVERYTHING that does not agree with the libtard mind is automatically racist.

Thats obummers  legacy,, they set race relations BACK 50 years. AT LEAST.
And continue to make it worse.

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Joe Stalin wasnt ALL bad.

A good old fashioned joe stalin style political house cleaning is EXACTLY what we need.

All the old ones,, GONE.  :th_thicon_idea:    :th_KO:
All the new ones see whats going to happen to THEM if they get corrupt and act  like the last batch.  :beatdown7:  :thumbsup1:

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Handguns and Revolvers / Re: Colt Content Part I
« on: January 14, 2019, 06:35:09 PM »
 :facepalm:  SoME people should have their azz removed.  :bangheadonwall:

Nice find anyway.  :thumbsup1:

I compare that to my brother in laws buddy got his hands on an all original 1903 A3 Springfield a few years ago. He heard they had great accuracy and wanted one for a deer rifle. How he found that one I dont know. They are kinda rare in original condition. So my extremely intelligent bol takes a hacksaw to it. He cuts the barrel off right behind the sight and cuts the stock off at the center stock band.  :scream3:

When I seen what that IDIOT did to an original 03, It was pretty hard to refrain from shooting his dumb azz. And he was bragging about what a wonderful "bubba gun smith" job he done. :bangheadonwall:
Had I known his friend had it, I would have offered to buy him a new winchester or remington 30-06 in trade.

You cant fix stupid. And some people buy the buffet.

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Good to know what to look for. Thanks.  :thumbsup1:

I always suspected the chambers were probably too tight. Thats a delicate balance to dance around for function and accuracy. Uneven brass expansion compounds the problem 10 fold. They obviously figured it out whatever the case..  :th_thicon_idea:


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The first edition of PMR 30 (2010 through 2014) were pretty ammo sensitive and had keyhole issues. Mine is a 2nd edition 2015 manufacture. Kel Tec provides a in box warning about what ammo manufactures to avoid but I've run everything through it from Armscor to Winchester w/o a hiccup. I fitted mine with a IProtec light and Burris Fastfire III red dot. When I go with friends to the range it's the most requested firearm to bring along. It's a fire breather and one loud SOB. Accurate too.


Do they have the date of MFG stamped on them somewhere a fella could look and tell the year built if I ran across one?

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I understand that rim fire hammers need that extra oomph but the LCR .22 mag was a little to heavy for this old dude to get any decent follow up shots. I do have the PMR and CMR 30 which are great shooters. Fire breathers for sure and dead accurate.
:thumbsup1:
I almost bought one of those PMR 30's, and when I was set to, couldnt find one, It eventually went  on the bucket list. Kinda glad in hindsight I didnt at that time. ( 2010) They was brand new and had some problems that have since been worked out.

My friend who had the 22 mag derringer, got one used. And it was a jammomatic. I dont know if he ever did get it figured out,, but I know the early ones had that problem, and were very ammo picky. Im not sure WHAT the problem in his was. I think someone pawned it off on him knowing it had a problem.  :facepalm:
I do know they figured it out in later versions.
That auto was very appealing for several reasons.
30 rounds of deadly accurate ammo, at long range, in a pistol. Thats alot of fire power.
I wanted one for a trail gun if it could hold an accuracy candle to a single six.

There was a couple reasons nobody ever dabbled in a 22 mag auto.
The length of the cartridge was part of it.
The uneven brass/ cartridge expansion was another problem.
22 Rimfire ammo was not know for tight tolerences. 

CZ seemed to figure it out on their 22 mag auto 512 rifle, as its reported to run fine too.

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My wifes LCR 22 mag  had a pretty stiff gritty trigger also.
It did eventually smooth out and lighten up a bit , to where its pretty decent now.
Like you, I cant do very well with it. Im used to 4 lb smooth triggers, ( Im a spoiled trigger snob  :P )  but she does rather well with it.

I dry fired it about 400 times while soaked in WD40. That REALLY helped. :th_thicon_idea:

I generally do that with all my pistols. 4 to 500 seems to be the magic number to get a nice smooth DA trigger.  :th_thicon_idea:

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Nope not interested.

For $369, I’d rather just buy more 9mm ammo.
And, I hat trigger guard might tend to get caught if I pocket carry.

I noticed they DIDNT mention the trigger pull weight.
Two finger trigger + hammerless + rimfire =    tells me its probably pretty darn stiff.

And Im sure with a double movement of the cylinder, how the trigger is set, also a pretty Loooonnnnnggggggggg pull.  :facepalm:

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I started using 22 mag back in the 1970's, for everything from hunting to dropping cows and pigs for slaughter. It was a mainstay on the farm for everything.
I have several rifles and pistols. My wife even has a Ruger LCR 22 mag for an additional conceal carry.

I was never a 22 lr guy after I seen the difference. We had neighbors trying to kill  pigs with 22 lrs and it was ugly. The 22 mag was one and done.
The 22 mag has 2 or 3 times the lethal range and  awesome penetration. Is fast, flat, and deadly accurate.

In the late 1980's I seen a 225+ lb body builder type charging a guy to attack him, get shot square in the chest, and it not only stopped his forward momentum, it dropped him like a bad habit. All he could do after that was lay on the ground crying like a baby until the ambulance dragged him off. I know he was in the hospital for about a month, and seen him afterwards still gimping around. ( any consolation, he deserved it as he was violently assaulting random people, and just decided to attack the wrong guy)

My CZ 455 varmint can drive tacks @ 200 +yards.  I shoot pop cans @ 250 easily.

The 22 mag penetrates ballistic gel deeper than a standard .38, and can zip right through most kevlar.

So it does have a use and place for people who cant handle recoil in their SD sidearm.
I know after seeing 40+ years of the wound channels and penetration it has, I certainly would NOT want shot with it. The 22 mag is certainly a lethal little round.

 This comment really told me alot,, about the designers and company reps.
They are obviously giving advice on something they know little about,, which is NEVER good.

Interestingly, the company suggests combining the standard ammunition with birdshot loads so that “each pull of the trigger will deliver an incredible combination of firepower and very light recoil“. What do you think about it?


I use 22 mag birdshot around the house outside alot on red squirrels, starlings, pest and such.
While it does really good from a 6.5 barrel Single Six out to 25 yards, if you hit ANYTHING hard, including tree bark,, the bb's will bounce right back at you. I ALWAYS wear safety glasses when using it. I have been hit several times with the birdshot.
Advising someone to use it for SD just to tame recoil is just plain irresponsible nonsense from the mouth of a dummy IMO.

While my wife is VERY recoil sensitive, her LCR 22 mag does not have much recoil at all. Its all NOISE.
And thats using CCI 1875+ fps  ammo.

It was always my opinion that if someone can shoot a 22 lr pistol, then they can certainly shoot a 22 mag pistol. People always seem to confuse the 22 mags extremely loud sonic crack with recoil.

After my wife got over the noise problem, she absolutely loves it. And because of the LCR short barrel, its a little bit of a  fire breather with hot ammo, but very manageable recoil wise. I intentionally trained her on a Single six, 1st on 22lr, then 22 mag until she got used to it. The little LCR 22 mag is now her favorite revolver. So it was a great trainer, but even with a Cz Rami & Sig 938, she still uses it.

The double shot seems like a dumb idea.   :th_nuts:
The lack of a trigger guard even dumber.  :facepalm:

This does not seem very well thought out.

A sig 238/938, or CZ Rami makes a whole lot more sense to me. The Sig 938 has very little felt recoil, Probably the least felt in any sub compact 9 Ive ever shot. Even better than the Rami IMO. But  that also tells me the Sig 238 should be really tame on recoil. 

If its a recoil issue, then just buy an LCR 22 mag..

My friend had a 22 mag derringer. He ask me one day at work if I had any 22 mag ammo in my truck, and I said sure, in the glove box, help yourself. I was busy doing something and DIDNT know what he was doing. He just bought the derringer & He loaded up the little derringer with CCI maxi mag + V ( 2200+ fps) and I looked over right when he pulled the trigger. It blew fire out so bad he damn near dropped it. I stopped him and told him he better get some winchester 1200 fps ammo for that little derringer. I was afraid he might blow the thing up.   :afraid4:

But even a 22 mag derringer seems like a better idea than this revolver.


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"he was only stealing "  :devil10:
That Sums up part of the problem today. "only stealing"  .  Like that is is not so bad

The getaway driver girl. who is now charged with 3 counts of first degree murder,, said they "planned" the robbery.

So WHY did they seem to think they needed brass knuckles against an elderly old man?

I just SOOOOOooooooooo GLAD,,  :thumbsup1:,,, the elderly HOMEOWNER choose NOT to find out WHY the burglers had weapons used to beat people to death with..

They took brass knuckles to a gun fight INSIDE a mans home they INVADED uninvited..

This crime has "darwin award" all over it.  :th_thicon_idea:
(4) hood rats took themselves  out of the gene pool.  :thumbsup1:

Darwinism at its best.  :th_thicon_idea:

I fail to see a problem here,,,,,,,  :thinker:

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Their HERO uncle pervert joe said to buy a shotgun.  :th_thicon_lol:

My 12 has the plug out,  holds 5 rounds of 3', 00 buck. Thats (15) .33 caliber steel pellets X 5 = 75.

Is that high capacity ?    :thinker:    :th_thicon_funny: :th_thicon_funny: :th_thicon_funny:

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While any loss of life is tragic, the rules are pretty well known.

But that leaves me with 2 questions:
1) What would be a "fair fight" for 1 homeowner vs. 3 teenage burglars?

2) If an AR-15 is "unfair", what does that make Boomer vs. 3 teenage dumbazzes?

A helluva mess to clean up.  :afraid4:  The "splatter" would be tremendous.  :facepalm:

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I LOVE stories with HAPPY endings.

No taxes will be paid to house these criminal scumbags.  :thumbsup1:

NO charges against the HOMEOWNER.  :thumbsup1:

WIN WIN.  :thumbsup1:

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Standard libtard/leftist procedure.

They scream the loudest when someone else does the SAME thing they have ALREADY  done.  :th_thicon_lol:

What bothers me, and the only real issue with that,, that bothers me,,,

is the number of dem supporter nitwits that buy right into their BS and drink the koolaide.

This wall issue was brought up to me 2 days ago by a libtard. She FORCED the conversation on me.
She  was spewing msnbc propoganda like they had it memorized. Right from their playbook.

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"Trump said he was going to make mexico pay for the wall, 

"Yes, and he renegotiated nafta, so now they are paying more trade tarriffs. So they already are paying for it. "

"but that money cant be used for the wall, thats illegal.

Do you even know what a trade tarriff is?

But since he charge mexico more tax, now I have to pay $7 for a tomato, when it used to be $2. So the American people are paying for the wall. They just [passed that cost on to me, so the retailers get rich.

Umm,, bullshit.  :th_thicon_funny: the retailers do not get the trade tariff tax. It goes right into the federal bank account.

ITS BECAUSE OF GERRY MANDERING.   :scream3: :scream3:

WHAT? ? ? ??  :sick2:   What  the F does gerry mandering have to do with Mexico and China paying higher trade tariffs?  :th_nuts:  :help: :th_nuts:

Because of gerry mandering, the retailers get the trade tax and I have to pay for it.

Laughing out loud.  :th_thicon_lol: :th_thicon_lol: :th_thicon_lol:

Trump lied, Trump lied Trump lied.

And... and,,,,, This government shut down is going to shut off welfare food stamps..

Ummm,,, OK. Fine by me.   :th_thicon_idea: welfare bums are tooo fat anyway. win win. :rocknroll2:

He raise the taxes on mexico to help Manafort and  the Russains.

OK. this conversation is over. YOU are a F ing IDIOT. Go watch ur lesbo hero rachel maddox some more. :th_thicon_funny: :th_thicon_funny:

But but but   :scream3: :scream3: :scream3:

No seriously. GET THE HELL AWAY FROM ME.  :bangheadonwall:

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That conversation happened. :th_thicon_lol: :th_thicon_lol: :th_thicon_lol:

These people are world class morons.  :facepalm:
 


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General Gun Discussion / Re: Any planned 2019 purchases?
« on: January 07, 2019, 03:33:14 PM »
I popped a coyote with the JRC 9mm tonight. . . . .
thank you.  :th_thicon_idea: one down, twenty gazzilion to go

I shoot EVERY one I see. One reason I like a CZ carry pistol. Very accurate at long range.
I live rural. And Ill give em the whole mag if need be. Lol.  :P

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The ONLY Walther in this camp is a 1939-P38 my Grandpap picked up off the battlefield in Belgium during the Battle of the Bulge in December of 1944, during WW2. .   :th_thicon_idea:

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General Gun Discussion / Re: Any planned 2019 purchases?
« on: January 06, 2019, 11:03:42 PM »
I popped a coyote with the JRC 9mm tonight. @ about 75 yards. He was in the field out from the house making racket. Dropped him like a brick. I seen the eye shine in the scope with the green laser light, heard the plop and saw him spin and go down. But by the time I  got my boots on and got out there, he was gone. Blood everywhere. He was facing me at an angle, I think I may have grazed the shoulder and hit em in the guts.  Tough bastards.  :sick2:
He wont be dampening my door step again anyway. 124 grains of FMJ lead poisoning.  :th_thicon_idea:
 
Thats one thing kinda weird about a 9mm carbine. The bullet makes a ridiculously LOUD PLOP when you hit a critter.
There is no mistaking it.  :thumbsup1:

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General Gun Discussion / Re: Any planned 2019 purchases?
« on: January 06, 2019, 03:11:42 PM »
I've been trying to make myself decide for a while between the Sig MPX and CZ Scorpion for a Pistol Caliber Carbine for competition (and fun).
Now that Sig bought our a "competition ready" MPX PCC, I've decided to jump on it.
Soon as I find one for a decent price, I'll take it.

The JR Carbine is no competition shooter, But they will run dirty,clean, and any ammo Ive stuffed in,  it dont matter. Ive ran mine over 1500 rounds without cleaning. It was filthy, but it still ran no problem. The design blows most of the powder deposits out the ejection port. So while the outside was filthy, pulling the bolt if was surprisingly clean. The mags also get really dirty on top,, but seem fine inside.

But  Id highly recommend the glock mag versions, as the S&w mags is reported to not to like running in the JRC.
Iv e never had a jam or misfire in any way that was the rifles fault in over 7000 rounds ..

They are deadly accurate cold bore to 200 yards, but after 50 or so rapid fired  rounds,  the group opens up.
They also use AR furniture and trigger group.

 I use mine for a varmintor with a night scope & green laser light. Works great. Not much  louder than a 22 lr,, but less than a 22 mag.

Its no competition shooter, but a fun, reliable, and cold bore accurate carbine.

I really was wanting the CZ back when I bought the JRC , until they made separate mags for it. I thought that was just ignorant since I have about 25 CZ 16 round 75 series mags. That made little sense to me.

So when I bought the JRC, I just went and bought about a dozen G17 gluck mags.
I dont own a gluck,, but their mags are easy to find, fairly cheap, and work.

 I read really good stuff about the Sig, but the price was a small point. Its was almost double the  JRC back then.

Good luck Dom.

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General Gun Discussion / Re: Any planned 2019 purchases?
« on: January 04, 2019, 11:47:11 AM »
If I buy one in 2019, it will be ANOTHER CZ  PCR since they are producing them again.

Ive been EDC'ing a PCR for several years 99% of the time.
Its my favorite Conceal EDC Ive had in 32 years.
While the P-01 is an awesome replacement on all counts, I hate hate hate the pic rail.


The PCR  comes factory with several things most do NOT have.

Extended mag release.
loaded chamber indicator.  :thumbsup1: :thumbsup1: :thumbsup1: Which I love love love.
Combat night sights. ( pretty good, but I change those to Truglo TFX anyway)
Slimline tapered frame. ( easy to conceal and comfy.)
lanyard ring.
(My 2013 built PCR  has a stainless trigger) which is not common.

So Id like to have an extra PCR.  :thumbsup1:

Probably one of the most under rated CZ pistols IMO.

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Ammunition / Re: 9mm vs 9mm Luger
« on: December 27, 2018, 11:03:45 PM »
@dcd327 ...

9mm NATO is substantially hotter than the SAAMI 9mm Spec.  It is not any combination of +'s or P's either 'cause it is not SAAMI spec'd ammo.  I can tell you it's both heavier and faster than the normal 115g 9mm.

Thanks Dred.  :thumbsup1:  Got me curious so I looked it up to refresh my memory. :thinker:

9mm luger standard is 34,100 .
9 x 19 para  SAAMI is 35,001 .
9mm nato maximum pressure on a 108 to 128 grain max bullet weight ,  is 36,500 .

9 x 19 para +P   SAAMI max is 38,500.

So any pistol +P rated can safely shoot 9mm nato.

9 mm NATO can be considered an overpressure variant of the 9×19mm Parabellum that is defined by NATO standards. The service pressure Pmax of the 9 mm NATO is rated at 252 MPa (36,500 psi) where CIP rates the 9mm Luger Pmax somewhat lower at 235 MPa (34,100 psi).

The SAAMI pressure limit for the 9×19mm Parabellum is set at 241.32 MPa (35,001 psi) piezo pressure.
The SAAMI pressure limit for the 9×19mm Parabellum +P is set at 265.45 MPa (38,500 psi)

Interesting to those that carry 9mm, but probably not so much for 9mm haters.

The round was originally designed to be lethal to 50 meters, but is still lethal at longer ranges. The 9mm cartridge combines a flat trajectory with moderate recoil. According to the 1986 book Handloading: "the modern science of wound ballistics has established beyond reasonable doubt that the 9mm cartridge is highly effective.

In 2014, the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) released a report detailing the potential combat effectiveness of the 9mm cartridge when compared to other calibers such as the .45 ACP and the .40 S&W cartridge that was specifically developed for use by the FBI. The report indicated that the new powders and more advanced bullet designs used in current 9mm defensive loads allowed for the caliber to deliver almost similar performance to other calibers, like the .45 ACP, and .40 S&W. In addition to this, the lower recoil, less wear, cheaper ammunition and higher capacity were all reasons that the report cited for the recent surge in orders of the ammunition from various police agencies. With a wider selection of officers being able to shoot handguns chambered in 9×19mm, many departments choose this caliber so they can standardize around a single firearm and loading, making logistics and supply easier. Due to all of these factors, law enforcement orders of 9mm ammo from all major ammunition manufacturers have spiked significantly.

The FBI report made it clear that the more consistent accuracy of 9mm in the hands of their less experienced shooters was a factor in their returning to 9mm as their standard handgun caliber. It was also made clear that the almost same effectiveness of 9mm compared to .40 S&W and .45 ACP was due to the high quality of 9mm ammunition available

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Ammunition / Re: 9mm vs 9mm Luger
« on: December 27, 2018, 04:27:39 PM »
The common "9mm" is indeed 9mm Luger.
Sometimes also shown as:

9×19
9mm NATO
9×19mm
9 mil
9×19mm NATO
9mm Parabellum
9mm Para
9mm P

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9%C3%9719mm_Parabellum

 :thumbsup1:

CCI Blazer  ALL says 9mm luger. While many other brands say 9mm para,  or 9x19.

Ur good. I ran almost 5K of CCI Blazer 9mm luger through my 92fs, 92g, several CZ 75's, and a JR Carbine last year alone. While the Berettas say 9mm para, the Cz's say 9mm luger, and the JRC says 9 x 19..

Same Same.

Now it is my understanding, and some PLEASE correct me if Im wrong..

I believe Tango may be correct on the 9mm Nato, but I believe they have a set minimum powder charge, but 9mm nato is not over pressured or +p type any more than say factory CCI blazer brass. Ive never noticed a bit of difference in good ammo.
Now some of the generic stuff does not meet the standard minimum and is loaded down.

I think its the same  with standard Nato 5.56 and  7.62 to meet a standard minimum, but both  5.56 nato and 7.62  nato ARE LOADED TO HIGHER PRESSURES than standard 2.23 and .308. So to shoot 5.56 nato in a 2.23, its recommended you need a wylde chamber to lower the pressures.
They do not recommend , you  do not want to shoot 5.56 or 7.65 nato ammo in a 223 or 308 that is not stamped for it. 

Ive never heard of any issues with "9mm nato" stamped on it other than it has met a required standard minimum.

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