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RIP Charlie Daniel's.

A patriot.

In 1980 I was 15. We were watching the music awards on the old wire antenna TV.

When Charlie n band walk on  stage for ""the devil went down to Ga",
my mom starts yelling at my Dad,

Charlie had a broken arm and couldnt play the fiddle. A distant cousin of ours, whom my mom and dad both knew, and walked to school everyday to the old red brick school/church, with my mom and her siblings, Buddy Spicher, was playing the fiddle for Charlie.

I've never met either man, but I still know the whole rest of the spicher family that still live just up the road.

That was kinda neat.

Buddy also plays the fiddle for George straits  Amarillo by morning.  :th_thicon_funny:

Local country farm boy, born not 500 yards from my grandpa's family farm,  makes good. 

Mom and an aunt  said, he walked the 2 miles one way,  to school and back just about every days as a kid playing a fiddle, driving everyone nuts..  :th_thicon_funny::th_thicon_idea:

NFA / Re: Ultra quiet *Centerfire* rifle: what does it take?
« on: July 03, 2020, 01:26:29 PM »
During the Vietnam War, the Army were supplied with some Sionics suppressors for the M14 rifle, that were also equipped with a night vision scope. They were using standard ammunition for the M14, but with the suppressor, and night vision scope, there was still the sonic crack, but no muzzle blast and the enemy had no idea where the shots were actually coming from. It was just a further refinement of some of the sniper programs to unbalance the enemy.

That's interesting.

I have read alot of the snipers tricks they used, trying to deflect the sound, etc.

But I had never read up on  that particular set up.

I know my uncle did 2 tours, 68 n 69.
He was one of those guys who never talked about it. He was with an engineer company.

The past couple years he all a sudden started telling me about things. Some mundane, some pretty ugly.

But he said he found out real quick to carry an m14. After shooting several enemy with an m16 and not stopping them, he said the m14 would put em on the ground right now, and they didnt get back up.

He said their guys would even carry an M1 if they couldnt find an m14. Since we supplied M1s to ROKs and Arvn, and they had an ROK group In  their area.
He also said those ROKs were some of the meanest ruthless SOBs he ever met.
But they traded with them all the time.

He said the m16 had zero penetration, and when you did hit them, they mostly ran away. Or kept coming.

they hated that worthless black plastic rifle. ( his words) :th_thicon_lol:


Dont go looking, but you dont have to run either.
Alot of older folks cant run  anyway,  for various reasons.

YOU are the only one that has to answer for YOU being forced into shooting some dumbass.

So make sure you are In  the right.  :thumbsup1:

NFA / Re: Ultra quiet *Centerfire* rifle: what does it take?
« on: July 01, 2020, 11:14:03 PM »


 Keep going TXhillbilly!  "Quiet" to the degree possible out to +/- 200 yards works.
That's where,   subsonic + bullet coefficient + gravity = short range crappy results.

I had read in Vietnam special ops experimented with a swedish K built .45 acp caliber sub machine gun. Supposedly for prisoner snatches across the fence. 

They had is so quiet the loudest  noise was the bolt racking.

But said it wasnt any good, Or accurate past 25 feet.

They had tried a single shot 22 first, and that just pissed the would be victim off.

I think they even tried some jet fire thing.

Since the lethality was nil, they scratched the whole project.

I really dont think you can have you cake and eat it too on this one.  :bangheadonwall:

If it's possible for any kind of range, its beyond my knowledge.

No, the numbers dont add up.

Our Obama sponsored govonor wolf, who is in office from philly voter fraud. Has pulled alot of shit.

He ordered the hospitals to report ALL deaths directly to the state health department.

This skips the coronors death certificate, and cause of death. So for several months, they were counting ALL state deaths as covid.

He, like Cuomo, order nursing homes to take covid patients, which wiped out any nursing homes that did it.

Ours didnt. That was an insane order.

But Wolf tried to pump the numbers up as bad as he could.

Turns out, because of a congressional investigation, AND the coronors doing their own count, 4,500 elderly died in nursing homes, from wolfs order.

But the total death numbers are not even 1/2 what the govonor claimed. They are still trying to get an accurate number.

But now they are saying that the 4,500 elderly  is 80% of the total death count.

Not the 18,000 + wolf was claiming.

Our county has been in a CO- OP of sorts with 6 other rural counties, and keeping track of our own numbers. Since the state has been obviously lieing about things.

Seems Democrat govonors are trying to make this pandemic, not only as bad as possible, but make it sound as bad as possible, to keep states shut down until Nov 3rd.

It was painfully obvious from day one that was the dnc plan.

Covid is real, and contagious.  But no where near as bad as our Democrat govonor claims.

Our numbers were going down significantly. 

These Democrat induced riots are obviously going to make it spike again.

Which is EXACTLY what the dems want.

Off Topic Discussion (NON FIREARM RELATED) / The covid question.
« on: July 01, 2020, 11:40:39 AM »
Last Saturday I went to the ER for stroke symptoms.  They said I had a TEI. Type of stroke.

But that's not what this thread is about.

Everyone has been avoiding the hospital like the plague. My city has the main hospital for the county of approx 250,000. And more serves about 5 other very rural counties.

Learned several interesting things.

We have had 70 cases of covid.

The DRs and nurses say about 90% are out of towners dragging it in here.

1#Truckdrivers , 2#travelers, were cited as the number 1 n 2 carriers. 

I was very impressed how they was working the hospital.

The Dr gave me a little inch long tube, about as big as a pencil, had a cap and a sponge on one end. He squeezed the vial until the cap went wet, and said to swab my nostrils 3 times, squeeze to sponge was wet, repeat.

He said it smelled like oranges for about 5 minutes, but killed covid,Mercers, and several other bacteria on contact.

A nurse told me, while coming into work, they ALL had to do that beginning and ending each shift.
And they did me again when I left.

They also were quarantined in the area they worked in. They now bring them lunch to their work area or floor.

NOBODY but lab people and maintenance cleaning people were really allowed to roam around the hospital, and they had full mop gear on.

Nobody enters the hospital without a mask, they will supply them.

No visitors allowed, and only 1 family member in most cases, AFTER they were checked and nose swabbed.

The floor they sent me too, AFTER being tested for covid, had about 10 patients on the whole floor. So I had a private room.

I also had several Dr tele /TV conferences.

Our hospital used to hire traveling nurses, mostly from Pittsburgh, and they stopped that as several had the crud.

They  laid off 580 traveling nurses.

In the ER, an alarm went off, and ALL doors were immediately closed, even the ER nurses went into a lockdown room, while a patient they thought might have the crud was wheeled in in a respirator, by a nurse in a respirator, and taken to a separate area down a hallway  that had locked down er rooms with doors, etc.
Turned put the patient just had a fever.

Every nurse washed their hands  and changed gloves before entering, and after leaving your room.

They were being super careful to immediately isolate and separate anyone they thought might be a crud carrier.

Our nursing homes totally ignored the govs covid orders, locked down the elderly, put safety protocols in place, and we have zero covid in homes, zero deaths.

That's pretty impressive as we have 4 very large nursing homes in our town.

I'm thinking these DRs got it right.
I was impressed, and am not scared to go to the ER after seeing all that.

Just some interesting observations from an ER trip.

NFA / Re: Ultra quiet *Centerfire* rifle: what does it take?
« on: July 01, 2020, 11:10:20 AM »
No matter what you do, there will ALWAYS be the sonic crack of the bullet. 

Sub sonic ammo would be about the only chance, and likely wouldnt be for shit at distance, or penetration.

You can get a 9mm carbine pretty quiet, like less than a 22 or,  but not silent.

I think it's pretty much a loose loose battle.

Slow, inaccurate, ineffective,  quiet,
Fast, accurate, lethal, with a crack.

I dont think you Cant have your cake and eat it too on this one.

Physics and gravity just  wont allow it.

So screw it, I'm being noisy.  :th_thicon_lol:

It always pissed me off that people would call John Wayne a draft Dodger. 

He was not only married with two kids when pearl harbor happened, 1941, he was too old.

They would not even take married men, with kids, over the age of 30. All 3 of which, he was.

He tried to sign up and they refused him at least 3 times.

But his patriotism during Vietnam was pretty impressive. He even tried to go out on missions when in Vietnam, and they flat out told him NO F ING WAY.  :th_thicon_lol:

My own grandfather was the same age as Wayne, married with one kid. ( my dad), and he had to lie his ass off to get into WW2.
My grandmother was MAD about that until her dying day in 1992.

John Wayne was too well know to even try that stunt.  :th_thicon_lol:

This smacks pretty hard of  Floyd's little stunt he tried to pull. 

Likely why he is not identified.

They dont want another martyr.  :P

Handguns and Revolvers / Re: Lifecard 22WMR
« on: June 30, 2020, 11:17:14 AM »
My friend brought a 22 mag derringer to work one time. It was some generic built job.
Cant remember who made It. And it was also pretty old from the looks of it.

I always carried a ruger single six convertible 22 mag in my truck. With several types of cci ammo.

He ask if I had any 22 mag ammo.
I said yes, there is several boxes  in the glove compartment, Help yourself.

I was busy doing something, so wasnt watching.
He grabbed the  CCI maxi mag + V, which is really souped up stuff. Like 2300 fps.

I looked over just about the time he pulled the trigger.

He damn near dropped the derringer. It blew flames about 2 feet, or more.  :afraid4:

I told him he might want to try some Winchester white box as its hardy 1100 fps.

I was afraid he would blow that little derringer apart.  :th_thicon_funny:

Handguns and Revolvers / Re: Lifecard 22WMR
« on: June 29, 2020, 11:15:51 PM »
22 "wmr "means " winchester magnum rimfire".

This is clearly a 22 lr,  long rifle.

Sorry, but I dont get it ?  :thinker:

A 22 mag round would likely blow that little pos apart.  :facepalm:

Politics, Gripes, Complaints / Re: ..oh joy..
« on: June 29, 2020, 03:08:17 PM »
Watch and see if Biden dont pull this plug of his azz and promise it.  :th_thicon_lol:

And surely there will be REALLY STUPID peoples who vote for him because of it.

Joe is all but there now. He , like most dems, absolutely refuses to say anything about rioters, looters, or the several  murdered black cops.

Dem voters  just  NEVER learn.  :facepalm:

Politics, Gripes, Complaints / Re: ..oh joy..
« on: June 27, 2020, 02:47:11 PM »
Which deserving groups did I leave out?

Nope . Sounds good.

I can prolly pull a pochahontas and come up with an Indian in the wood pile.

So I got about 1.4 TRILLION owed to me under those regs.  :th_thicon_funny:

Give me 1 million.

Donate the rest to shriners and st jude.  :th_thicon_idea:

General Gun Discussion / Re: Quick access handguns at the doors
« on: June 27, 2020, 11:50:38 AM »
Well hidden ?  maybe. No kids here. Grandkids come about once a year. Then EVERYTHING gets locked up.

I have a nice eye candy gun case right in my living room, but none of the display rifles in there has firing pins. I'd prefer not to be shot with one of my own guns. I just keep cheaper 22 lrs , muzzleloaders, and such In  there. Stuff I could replace if ever stolen.

I ALWAYS have my EDC either on me or handy. It's out, and loaded with spare mags around. And I usually keep a semi auto carbine handy, for coyotes, critters,  and such.

But then again, i have a very infalible early  warning system in place.

 I have 3 German shepherds.
2 outside, 1 inside. The one inside is a bitch, and I do mean a BITCH.
A freaking mouse cant set foot on my 5 acres that I dont know about it.

I just carry a gun to make sure someone dont pull a knife on one of my dogs.  :th_thicon_lol:

Politics, Gripes, Complaints / Re: ..oh joy..
« on: June 27, 2020, 11:34:25 AM »
Every Democrat since bill Clinton promised slave reparations to get the black vote.
Actually, HILIARY started this shit.

Been 30 years. And they ain't got it yet.  :thinker:

You would think they would learn.  :th_thicon_lol:

No tango, I dont think any of us should pay for it.

My great great grandfather was wounded pretty bad at Chancellorsville Va in a blue uniform.

He came home and gimped around the farm for the next 60 years trying to scrape out a living.
He also had 1 cousins killed at Gettysburg.

So I dont believe me, or ANYONE else, OWES anybody a damn thing.

But the dems will promise ANYTHING to get the minority vote.

They'll never give it, NEVER HAVE, but they certainly will promise it. And stupid people will vote for them.

That's why they wont teach history, or anything else,  in schools.

Keep em DUMB.

Now they're trying to tear down Abraham Lincoln statues.  :bangheadonwall:


Politics, Gripes, Complaints / Re: ..oh joy..
« on: June 27, 2020, 02:06:33 AM »
I think they need to go talk to the Portugese, who started the whole african slave trade.
Then the Spanish and the French come next.

Oh, and maybe go talk to their own chieftains in Africa who sold them Into slavery to the Portugese.

That's how African chiefs  handled trouble makers, political rivals, bad neighbors, rioters, looters And  Protestors back then.

So I'd really prefer not to hear their bullshit.

Besides, I seriously doubt any of the slaves freed in 1865 are still alive in Brazil with Hitler.

General Gun Discussion / Re: Frangible ammo for home defense
« on: June 24, 2020, 10:44:13 PM »
I never tried it. The reviews didnt suit me at all.

Frangible ammo can tumble, disintegrate in flight, or break during cycling causing jams,  Or all of the above.
It also is said to be very hard on barrels rifling.

I prefer to stick with what I ALREADY know works.

General Gun Discussion / Re: guns - messed 1 up..
« on: June 19, 2020, 03:46:38 PM »
I have had a couple of guns have assembly problems over the years - most were like 15-20 years ago. But, it can be VERY frustrating. Sorry.

I once had an aftermarket guiderod for a Beretta 92 go INSIDE of the recoil spring. The guiderod then went in and out of the hole in the slide for the guiderod, but it wouldn't come all the way out. Because of that, I couldn't get the slide off. I messed with it for about an hour. I FINALLY got it off, but it ended up chipping the frame in 1 spot. After that, I stopped replacing the polymer guiderods on Berettas...

I also tried the beretta stainless rods when They were all the rage.

They caused ALOT of vibration transfering into the pistol while shooting it.

I didnt like that one bit.

So I have a few of those rods laying in the armores tool box doing nothing.

Not likely ever to be used again.  :th_thicon_idea:

Handguns and Revolvers / Re: Ruger LCP II .22 LR
« on: June 17, 2020, 11:56:19 PM »
Anyone have any opinions on a beretta bobcat 22lr ?
I was really wondering about the trigger, since beretta and crappy triggers seem to go hand In hand.

I seen a cheap taurus knock off I was almost willing to try.
But the beretta 22lr bobcat is available at my lgs. Just wondering it they're worth it?

Fyi, my DIL has 2 walther 22s. I wouldnt give a plug nickel for either.  Jammomatics.

I just wanted a 22lr plinker too. Something  that would run any ammo, and reasonably accurate.

All of my 22lr plinkers are 6' bbl convertible 22lr/22mag revolvers. Mostly used for 22 mag.

Agreed. I always thought it a gimmick, that I wouldnt like anyway.
I guess mostly because I never thought AR pistols made any sense. Not for me anyway.

My pistols are LEGIT pistols, and my rifles are LEGIT  rifles. ALL VERY ACCURATE.

They work as is. Good enough for me.

So i have no feelings on a "brace" , or their ban,  either way.

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