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Title: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on May 18, 2012, 08:39:39 AM
Please vote in the poll and let us know :)

(I saw this on another forum - and over a year or more, it will be interesting to see the results)

I can't possibly list everything - and, many "junk" guns are no longer made - so, I excluded some brands - like Jennings, Llama and Raven, etc)
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: texanron on May 19, 2012, 08:00:53 AM
I voted. FYI.....Keltec is listed twice.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on May 19, 2012, 09:04:18 AM
I voted. FYI.....Keltec is listed twice.

Thanks. Fixed it :)
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Domineaux on May 19, 2012, 11:41:20 AM
Voted other as I'm sure there is some manufacturer that is so terrible but none on the list strike me that way.
Some on the list though would need to be an exceedingly good deal for me to consider at all.
Hi-Point is one I would likely never buy just because they are ucking-fugly but if I was broke and had no other guns I would feel ok buying one as they do seem to have a reputation for working.
Title: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Jeb_66 on May 19, 2012, 07:03:54 PM
Apparently tapatalk doesn't list polls. Lol. I'll vote next time I get on my PC

Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on May 19, 2012, 07:23:30 PM
Well, its not only the junk gun - it may also be some gun you just will never buy...

I like Steyr AUGs. But, I absolutely do not care fo their pistols. So, I voted for them. But, that doesn't mean its a bad gun. I just don't like it...
Title: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: dred on May 19, 2012, 08:35:28 PM
I've been trying to teach myself to never say, "Never."

K ... edited 11/13 - I've developed an attitude about the quantity of money Kimber spends on marketing versus manufacturing.  It's not a dig against the guns - rather it is an observation that I would rather see 1) manufacturing brought home to USA, 2) higher quality materials, or 3) more enduring quality than the 3+ full page spreads in every gun rag I leaf through.  The marketing is expensive and IMO there is room for substantial improvements purchased with a portion of that budget.  If I ever own one - I'll bet it is purchased on the secondary market (used).
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on May 19, 2012, 09:02:29 PM
Some fool voted for Beretta  :scream3:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Jeb_66 on May 19, 2012, 10:46:03 PM
Taurus, Chiappa, and Hi Point. 
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Jeb_66 on May 19, 2012, 10:50:22 PM
Some fool voted for Beretta  :scream3:

 :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :bangheadonwall: :bangheadonwall: :bangheadonwall: :bangheadonwall: :bangheadonwall: :bangheadonwall: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: qtrain on May 20, 2012, 12:46:05 AM
While a lot of these manufacturers on the list rank " highly unlikely to purchase" to me, there is only one that stands out as being "NEVER" and that is Chiappa. I read something on thefirearmblog a while back about them supporting installing rfid chips or some form of tracking into their weapons. I will never support them...and this goes for ANY firearms manufacturer who thinks rfid/tracking is a great idea.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/07/29/chiappa-adding-rfid-chips-to-their-guns-mks-suggests-concerned-consumers-wrap-the-revolver-and-their-head-in-aluminum-foil/ (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/07/29/chiappa-adding-rfid-chips-to-their-guns-mks-suggests-concerned-consumers-wrap-the-revolver-and-their-head-in-aluminum-foil/)

Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on May 20, 2012, 07:32:47 AM
While a lot of these manufacturers on the list rank " highly unlikely to purchase" to me, there is only one that stands out as being "NEVER" and that is Chiappa. I read something on thefirearmblog a while back about them supporting installing rfid chips or some form of tracking into their weapons. I will never support them...and this goes for ANY firearms manufacturer who thinks rfid/tracking is a great idea.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/07/29/chiappa-adding-rfid-chips-to-their-guns-mks-suggests-concerned-consumers-wrap-the-revolver-and-their-head-in-aluminum-foil/ (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/07/29/chiappa-adding-rfid-chips-to-their-guns-mks-suggests-concerned-consumers-wrap-the-revolver-and-their-head-in-aluminum-foil/)

You do know that HK and Walther does this too.

I would take the chip out, but the myth that it tracks round count as its being fired is not true. That can be manually be put into there with a computer accessing the chip. Some people think the chip ACTS like a computer, and it doesn't.

However, I hear ya - it makes some people uncomfortable. But, other companies use this chip too
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: texanron on May 20, 2012, 07:58:47 AM
Some fool voted for Beretta  :scream3:
Three fools voted for Glock.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: qtrain on May 20, 2012, 08:07:25 AM
I did not know HK and Walther does it, but that would be a deal breaker for me. It isn't the round tracking that concerns me, and I don't mean to go too far off-topic but I'm just anti-anything that involves tracking/recognition/registration in any way. What little conspiracy theorist is in me...I say even if the RFIDs are harmless, I still think it can lead to precedence for would-be gun registration proponents. Co-mingling electronic technology with mechanical technology seems to be inevitable but I guess while I still have choices, I will choose those without electronic technology inside.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on May 20, 2012, 08:13:27 AM
Well, on most of the guns, if you take the backstrap off, you can remove the chip.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: fixer on May 20, 2012, 08:19:55 AM
Some fool voted for Beretta  :scream3:

Perma ban.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Ron M. on May 20, 2012, 08:28:35 AM
Some fool voted for Beretta  :scream3:
Three fools voted for Glock.  :facepalm:



I can only speak for myself, but I wouldn't buy a Glock because they just don't fit my hand. I can't shoot one with any consistent accuracy. I'll stick to 1911's, full sized Sigs and Beretta 92  series pistols.



Ron M.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: TAMC GLOCK on May 20, 2012, 02:27:17 PM
I said Kimber just because i think they are over priced and there are many other 1911s that i would buy even if kimber was cheaper. That being said there is not a gun on this earth that i would be disappointing if somebody gave me for free. There are just guns that would be a better buy.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: texanron on May 20, 2012, 05:00:04 PM
I said Kimber just because i think they are over priced and there are many other 1911s that i would buy even if kimber was cheaper. That being said there is not a gun on this earth that i would be disappointing if somebody gave me for free. There are just guns that would be a better buy.
Excellent point.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on May 20, 2012, 05:06:52 PM
Quote
That being said there is not a gun on this earth that i would be disappointing if somebody gave me for free.

Well, that wasn't the poll question  :thumbsup1:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: TAMC GLOCK on May 20, 2012, 05:52:57 PM
Quote
That being said there is not a gun on this earth that i would be disappointing if somebody gave me for free.

Well, that wasn't the poll question  :thumbsup1:

LOL well then in that case at my current income... it looks like i shouldve checked all of them :P
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: riattta on May 21, 2012, 09:10:09 AM
I would never buy one of those Rhorbach's they seem incredibly expensive for what you are getting
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: texpacker on May 21, 2012, 12:01:46 PM
Not sure it is appropriate to call someone a "fool" when you ask a question and get a reply you done like or agree with.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on May 21, 2012, 03:42:01 PM
I would never buy one of those Rhorbach's they seem incredibly expensive for what you are getting

You mean, Robaugh? Those little 9mm pistols?
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: seniledavid on May 21, 2012, 06:58:58 PM
Some fool voted for Beretta  :scream3:
Three fools voted for Glock.  :facepalm:



I can only speak for myself, but I wouldn't buy a Glock because they just don't fit my hand. I can't shoot one with any consistent accuracy. I'll stick to 1911's, full sized Sigs and Beretta 92  series pistols.



Ron M.

That's my very same reason, hate the grip... wouldn't keep one if it was given to me, it would be resold without thinking twice.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on May 28, 2012, 08:58:39 AM
 :bumpsign:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: dondavis3 on May 28, 2012, 02:19:09 PM
@ Shipwreck

Well dah

I misread it & voted for what companies I would buy from - can you reverse my votes?

What a Ding Bat I am. :scream3:

Sorry

 :th_thicon_idea:
Title: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Jeb_66 on May 28, 2012, 02:34:31 PM
Lol

Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on May 28, 2012, 03:59:59 PM
@ Shipwreck

Well dah

I misread it & voted for what companies I would buy from - can you reverse my votes?

What a Ding Bat I am. :scream3:

Sorry

 :th_thicon_idea:

Sorry, I have no way if the poll doesnt give you the option to change it yourself.  :thinker:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: rapidfire on May 28, 2012, 06:54:40 PM


I misread it & voted for what companies I would buy from

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: alexrex20 on June 19, 2012, 01:17:16 PM
hmmm, 1st and 2nd are out to a strong lead.....
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on June 19, 2012, 01:42:10 PM
Not sure it is appropriate to call someone a "fool" when you ask a question and get a reply you done like or agree with.

Some of the "regulars" harass the guys here who like Berettas. If you stick around, you'll see it. No one here who has been around a while would interpret my comment any other way but a joke.

As for Glocks - I voted for that one personally. I've owned 5 over the years. Zero interest in owning another. Not a bad gun - just not one I want anymore
Title: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Jeb_66 on June 19, 2012, 08:58:20 PM
Regulars harass?  No way. Lmao

Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Domineaux on June 19, 2012, 09:31:07 PM
Regulars harass?  No way. Lmao

Yeah what the heck is he on about? lol
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: michaele on June 19, 2012, 10:04:35 PM
Tauruas is the only one I will not buy.      I have a steerling arms  25,   was my moms when my dad worked nights ,  not sure if they are still around but since I cant find any info when i search I would guess not,  but that thing has light primer stickes if any 50% of the time.   But since I am not sure how the gun was careed for not going to blame the gun 100%.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: alexrex20 on June 19, 2012, 10:57:15 PM
some lady told me Taurus are good guns.

 :icon_redface: :icon_wink: :blondmoment:
Title: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Jeb_66 on June 20, 2012, 06:10:25 AM
No she didn't.

Lmfao.

Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: alexrex20 on June 20, 2012, 07:06:19 AM
Hey! Let me make decisions on my own! I am a human being and a grown man!
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: XinTX on June 20, 2012, 07:55:25 AM
I voted Kahr.  All their offerings are DAO, which is a deal killer for me.  The MUCH better half could never fire more than one or two rounds out of a DAO even if it had the softest of triggers.  So if she can't operate it, I won't buy it, even if it's for me.  She has very limited hand/finger strength and really struggles with DA trigger pulls.  I always wonder why so many mfgs don't wake up and see that there is a significant portion of the population that struggles with DAO trigger pulls.  Small women.  Elderly.  Those with arthritis. A lot of Sig guns can at least be converted from DAO to DA/SA (which I did to my 239 so the MUCH better half can shoot it).  When they announced the P250 was only going to be offered in DAO I said it wouldn't sell well.  It hasn't exactly set the world on fire.  I realize some love DAO for its simplicity, but there are a lot of people who cannot use a DAO handgun.  I happen to be married to one, so DAO is a deal killer for me.

I'd also second the Kimber vote if I could go back and vote for more than one (wasn't aware I could).  They're VASTLY over priced for what they are.  And a lot of folks are saying that their quality control isn't what it used to be.  Even what it used to be, a lot of Kimber owners talk about sending their guns back to them 2 or 3 times before they run right. 

Now, how can I go back and vote for Beretta................
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Jeb_66 on June 20, 2012, 08:48:38 AM
Hey! Let me make decisions on my own! I am a human being and a grown man!

Roflmfao. Awesome

Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on June 20, 2012, 08:52:33 AM


Now, how can I go back and vote for Beretta................

 :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

That's okay. Beretta called me yesterday and stated that their guns were too awesome for you, and they won't sell you one anyway  :th_thicon_lol:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: XinTX on June 20, 2012, 10:33:24 AM


Now, how can I go back and vote for Beretta................

 :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

That's okay. Beretta called me yesterday and stated that their guns were too awesome for you, and they won't sell you one anyway  :th_thicon_lol:

That's okay.  Wasn't interested in one of those Taurus clones anyway............   :sttoges2:
Title: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Jeb_66 on June 20, 2012, 10:55:12 AM
HEY HEY, now wait just a dang minute!!!

Lmao

Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: XinTX on June 20, 2012, 11:55:33 AM
HEY HEY, now wait just a dang minute!!!

Lmao

No way I can let Ship off THAT easy now is there?
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Domineaux on June 20, 2012, 02:49:42 PM
Wasn't interested in one of those Taurus clones anyway............   :sttoges2:

bwahahahaha...that was excellent!
/me rolls around on the floor in laughter
Title: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Jeb_66 on June 20, 2012, 04:56:26 PM
All you "regulars" need to KNOCK IT OFF!!!!


<------------- pours his Beretta koolaid on Dom while he's on the floor.

Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Domineaux on June 20, 2012, 06:33:03 PM
<------------- pours his Beretta koolaid on Dom while he's on the floor.

Who am I to turn down a free drink ;)
Title: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Jeb_66 on June 20, 2012, 08:43:50 PM
Anytime man!!!!!  The Beretta koolaid is always on tap over here.

Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: TexasGlock23 on June 20, 2012, 08:56:25 PM
Bersa, long story, but BERSA can suck it! :th_thicon_idea:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Domineaux on June 20, 2012, 09:03:50 PM
Bersa, long story, but BERSA can suck it! :th_thicon_idea:

Sorry to hear it, I love mine.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: 96fordsix on June 20, 2012, 10:08:37 PM
Now you all quit picking on Ship. You know he lovers those Taurus clones. Now to go vote
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on June 22, 2012, 12:41:41 PM
Now you all quit picking on Ship. You know he lovers those Taurus clones. Now to go vote

 :th_shtf:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: TexasGlock23 on June 22, 2012, 04:20:19 PM
The Thunder .380 was complete GARBAGE, 3x's to a gunsmith...that Bersa recommended and deals with!
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Domineaux on June 22, 2012, 04:26:41 PM
The Thunder .380 was complete GARBAGE, 3x's to a gunsmith...that Bersa recommended and deals with!

Wow that sucks. What problems were you having? Only bad I ever had with mine is the loose grip screws which Bersa sent me new ones for free on request.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: TexasGlock23 on June 23, 2012, 09:37:36 AM
fte and ftf, there were burs all on the inside, which meant I had to send it off three times. The 3rd and final time I got it back, shot 1 magazine, boxed it up and traded it off to my gun dealer for a CS9.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Domineaux on June 23, 2012, 02:18:25 PM
fte and ftf, there were burs all on the inside, which meant I had to send it off three times. The 3rd and final time I got it back, shot 1 magazine, boxed it up and traded it off to my gun dealer for a CS9.

Ouch!
Love mine so maybe yours was made on a friday ;)
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: TexasGlock23 on June 23, 2012, 04:03:01 PM
Same thing I always here, most love them...same thing with my Spike's lower, it has crap fitment! I know it happens, not every product produced will be perfect.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: fixer on July 04, 2012, 09:57:22 AM
It is hard to choose just one from that list.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on July 04, 2012, 12:50:08 PM
It is hard to choose just one from that list.

You can pick more than one silly  :P
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: fixer on July 05, 2012, 08:51:26 PM
I know...Just sayin...
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on July 06, 2012, 03:30:08 PM
I know...Just sayin...

 :th_thicon_idea: :th_thicon_idea:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: rapidfire on July 07, 2012, 04:14:08 PM
Taurus should be #1 with 1000 votes by now
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on July 18, 2012, 09:27:29 AM
We only have 41 votes... Please vote if you have not already  :thumbsup1:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: michaele on July 18, 2012, 07:34:06 PM
Remember vote Beretta.    That way Jeb can keep his koolaid to himself.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Jeb_66 on July 18, 2012, 07:55:29 PM
Remember vote Beretta.    That way Jeb can keep his koolaid to himself.

Seems more people would NOT buy Glock than Beretta.  Soooooo :thumbsup1:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: michaele on July 18, 2012, 08:22:00 PM
Thats only because they cant handle perfrection so they don't want to even be tempted by owning one.  SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Jeb_66 on July 18, 2012, 08:22:46 PM
That's kind of a reach man. Just saying.

Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: beagle on July 21, 2012, 01:16:25 PM
My father in law had a craptastic little 380 many years ago. It was a Davis Ind.
I would NEVER purchase something like that, all pot metal and broken firing pins/strikers.

Yuck.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on July 21, 2012, 01:33:23 PM
I've seen those before. My ex wife had one in 22 made by them... But I only included current manufacturers...
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: beagle on July 21, 2012, 02:30:40 PM
I'd probably have to say HighPoint then, although seeing a guy's extractor come flying off his Taurus during our CHL qual did not fill me with confidence!
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: mesinge2 on July 22, 2012, 08:03:40 AM
I voted Taurus. I still own three, but I have had 7. One, a PT-92, that I traded was flawless but the other three all had horrible malfunctions and I doubt I would trust another one. Maybe another PT-92 but nothing else.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: jared on July 22, 2012, 10:50:47 AM
Guy wanted me to work on his taurus. I said no, i refuse to work on those, too many problems and i do not want to be held responsible if it breaks and hurts you. This was after he was loudly telling me and my friend how he would sue someone over something little to get rich. Haaaa. Idiot
Title: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Jeb_66 on July 22, 2012, 11:48:29 AM
That attitude = pistol whip. :facepalm:

Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: michaele on July 22, 2012, 02:10:45 PM
. This was after he was loudly telling me and my friend how he would sue someone over something little to get rich. Haaaa. Idiot
People like that are part of the reason the world is going to crap. 
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: jared on July 22, 2012, 02:25:18 PM
. This was after he was loudly telling me and my friend how he would sue someone over something little to get rich. Haaaa. Idiot
People like that are part of the reason the world is going to crap.

thats a big 10-4
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Jeb_66 on July 22, 2012, 02:32:30 PM
roger-roger..................pssssshhhhhhhttttttt
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: 92A1 on August 30, 2012, 08:21:27 PM
I know I'm liable to get ragged about this, but I personally wouldn't buy a Glock. I know they are good handguns and a lot of folks like em, but I haven't held one yet that that feels good in my hand.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Jeb_66 on August 30, 2012, 08:23:17 PM
Neah, a LOT of it's just personal preference.  Don't worry, Michael won't trip out on you. 



Well, you are a Beretta guy.  So he MIGHT.   :th_thicon_lol:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: jared on August 30, 2012, 08:50:09 PM
He wont, unless he is a complete fan boy of an inferior weapon like you are :pp I mean, they only shoot their slides off after what, 10k rounds?


Wow, that was the first time ive ever bashed a brand... It felt good lmao
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Jeb_66 on August 30, 2012, 08:55:41 PM
 :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: 
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: jared on August 30, 2012, 09:19:16 PM
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

 :th_thicon_funny: :th_thicon_funny: :th_thicon_funny: :th_thicon_funny: :th_thicon_funny: :th_thicon_funny: :th_thicon_funny: :th_thicon_funny: :th_thicon_funny: :th_thicon_funny: :th_thicon_funny: :th_thicon_funny: :th_thicon_funny: :th_thicon_funny: :th_thicon_funny:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on October 12, 2012, 02:39:04 PM
 :bumpsign: :bumpsign:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: mantawolf on November 05, 2012, 09:19:09 PM
Jennings is still around.

Also known as Bryco and Jimenez...
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Ceejmo on November 06, 2012, 05:17:55 AM

Aren't Rossi and Taurus one in the same now?
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on November 06, 2012, 06:12:31 AM

Aren't Rossi and Taurus one in the same now?

Taurus owns them, but they are still separate brands
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Andres4 on November 13, 2012, 04:32:21 PM
I have a Kimber Pro was handed down to me, You have, to grip it like a manly man or it will tend to jam. It could have been the ammo I am not knocking the gun too much. I would not buy anouther one, they are too expensive, I see it as a novelty collector. I just bought a Beretta 92a1, I love it, I love it, I love it. I have to get use to it because, it is a big gun, and I have normal size hands so I am still getting use to the grip of it. I was told to get some houge grips with finger groves but then I would think it would make it even harder for me to grip with a larger grip on it. I was looking at the houge straight grip might jump on that they are cheap. My next gun either looking for a 4" glock or a baby beretta 22Lr any one have one for sale?!
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: 308nato on December 20, 2012, 07:54:02 PM
I'll confess I voted glock also as I just don't like plastic guns.
Yes I have fired several models and just dont like them.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Robmoo on December 21, 2012, 08:29:57 PM
Voted Diamondback.  I had a DB9 blow up in my hand.  When I shipped it to them for repair (they had to replace everything but the slide) they didn't even have the decency to send a latter of apology or offer to pay my shipping costs.  I've heard of people putting 500 rounds or more through the DB9, but I wouldn't trust one. 
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on December 21, 2012, 08:31:39 PM
Voted Diamondback.  I had a DB9 blow up in my hand.  When I shipped it to them for repair (they had to replace everything but the slide) they didn't even have the decency to send a latter of apology or offer to pay my shipping costs.  I've heard of people putting 500 rounds or more through the DB9, but I wouldn't trust one.

yes, no way I'd own one of those things either
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Bob Loblaw on December 22, 2012, 09:42:10 AM
i voted for glock - not because i think its a bad gun - but they dont fit my hand, i've had two and just didnt like them - it's not a knock on the gun itself - just not a fit for me
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Okstatefan on January 04, 2013, 06:31:27 PM
Hi-Point: They work, but are just plain ugly and not comfortable to me
Glock: I had a 19 and a 26 and just never warmed up to either
Diamond Back: I shot a DB9 twice. I mean two shots and I was done
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Ceejmo on January 04, 2013, 07:38:24 PM
Hi-Point: They work, but are just plain ugly and not comfortable to me
Glock: I had a 19 and a 26 and just never warmed up to either
Diamond Back: I shot a DB9 twice. I mean two shots and I was done

By the way, Diamondback is now owned by Taurus.
http://www.guns.com/2013/01/04/taurus-acquires-diamondback-firearms/ (http://www.guns.com/2013/01/04/taurus-acquires-diamondback-firearms/)
Title: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Jeb_66 on January 04, 2013, 07:47:05 PM
They would want it.

Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Domineaux on January 04, 2013, 07:54:01 PM
They would want it.

Well they did say they were going to make moves to improve their quality...sad that they consider this a move up.
Title: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Jeb_66 on January 04, 2013, 08:10:33 PM
Is it sad that I consider it a move up for them too?




Lol. J/k

Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: rapidfire on January 05, 2013, 01:18:26 PM
Is it sad that I consider it a move up for them too?




Lol. J/k

probably
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: krunkelton on January 21, 2013, 09:08:57 PM
kel-tec and not going to specify my reasons why  :bangheadonwall:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Beerman on January 22, 2013, 09:41:01 AM
Voted Taurus and Rossi. I did see a sweet Taurus 17HMR revolver that was pretty cool. Still  :th_nuts:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Pistolero on January 23, 2013, 02:53:35 PM
I heard that Taurus just bought, or is about to buy, Bushmaster.
Title: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Jeb_66 on January 23, 2013, 03:27:57 PM
:facepalm:

Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Pistolero on January 23, 2013, 04:09:30 PM
I heard that on the Guns Over Texas radio show this past weekend. Never have time to listen to that show, so I don't know anything about the guys on there. But it was obvious from listening to their comments that they:
1. Think Taurus sucks
2. Think Bushmaster sucks
3. Think that Bushmaster deserves to be bought out by another company that sucks.

I'm not a fan of AR's, so I don't know much about Bushmaster and didn't realize that they had a bad reputation. Or maybe it's just these guys.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Jeb_66 on January 23, 2013, 04:26:08 PM
I was always told Bushmaster was just the basic entry level AR, not that they were JUNK.  But I've never owned one either.  So I don't know for a fact they aren't anything that they claim to be. 
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Domineaux on January 23, 2013, 04:40:53 PM
Bushmaster are just a bottom tier AR maker. Generally they work but quality is much lower than the higher tier makers.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Pistolero on January 24, 2013, 11:37:25 AM
http://www.outdoorhub.com/news/experts-taurus-may-make-bid-on-freedom-group/?utm_source=iContact&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Outdoor%20Hub%20News&utm_content=January+22%2C+2013+Peyton+Manning (http://www.outdoorhub.com/news/experts-taurus-may-make-bid-on-freedom-group/?utm_source=iContact&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Outdoor%20Hub%20News&utm_content=January+22%2C+2013+Peyton+Manning)
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Andres4 on February 07, 2013, 09:03:04 PM
I had 3 FtF with my 92a1 :/ Then again it was with 7 year old UMC yella box.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on February 07, 2013, 09:35:43 PM
I had 3 FtF with my 92a1 :/ Then again it was with 7 year old UMC yella box.

That's why. I've seen many people have issues with all sorts of guns - with UMC. The follow up is that they tried something else and it worked.

UMC is inconsistent and under powered. One guy at the Beretta Forum even paid a gunsmith to trouble shoot his 92. It was simply the UMC ammo. I personally won't use the stuff.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: onealv87 on February 26, 2013, 09:29:05 PM
Taurus and it just depends on the firearm. Maybe they have improved them and I just don't know about it.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: randyjaco on April 02, 2013, 07:34:15 PM
I didn't vote. If the price was right; I'd probably buy from any of them. I just like guns

Randy
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Amistoso on April 10, 2013, 07:27:06 PM
Well, its not only the junk gun - it may also be some gun you just will never buy...

I like Steyr AUGs. But, I absolutely do not care fo their pistols. So, I voted for them. But, that doesn't mean its a bad gun. I just don't like it...
So you're saying they're uglier than HiPoints? Thats just crazy :)
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on April 10, 2013, 07:42:49 PM
Well, its not only the junk gun - it may also be some gun you just will never buy...

I like Steyr AUGs. But, I absolutely do not care fo their pistols. So, I voted for them. But, that doesn't mean its a bad gun. I just don't like it...
So you're saying they're uglier than HiPoints? Thats just crazy :)

I never said that - I wouldn't buy a hi point either...
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Domineaux on April 10, 2013, 08:37:37 PM
Life's too short for ugly guns ;)
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: texanbrit on April 11, 2013, 07:34:38 AM
Life's too short for ugly guns ;)

Another vote for Glock!
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Domineaux on April 11, 2013, 07:55:41 AM
Life's too short for ugly guns ;)

Another vote for Glock!

Nope...bought one before and will do so again I'm sure ;)

I actually like the look of Glocks, they look very utilitarian.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: wlhawk on May 02, 2013, 12:10:45 PM
The only handguns I would never have are AMT, Raven, Lorcin or Highpoint.  If I'm going to carry it, I need to be able to trust it to work. 
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on August 06, 2013, 09:44:23 AM
Interesting to see that no matter the brand, EVERY brand listed has at least 1 vote...   :thinker:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: mesinge2 on August 06, 2013, 10:12:02 PM
Interesting to see that no matter the brand, EVERY brand listed has at least 1 vote...   :thinker:

And Taurus and Hi Point lead the pack.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: texanbrit on August 07, 2013, 09:59:03 AM
Interesting to see that no matter the brand, EVERY brand listed has at least 1 vote...   :thinker:

Surprising to see votes against the "trusted" brands like S&W, Sig and Ruger.  It would be interesting to know why.

I voted Glock originally, because I personally can't get past the way they look.  The M&Ps prove there is no excuse for it.  Probably it is partially because everyone tells me that is what I should own, carry and clean my teeth with.  I tend to be repelled by things that I'm told I should like.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: TXAZ on September 10, 2013, 11:03:56 PM
Caracal. Need proof?  Www.pakguns.com (http://Www.pakguns.com)
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on September 11, 2013, 06:00:18 AM
Caracal. Need proof?  Www.pakguns.com (http://Www.pakguns.com)

Haha, yea. I don't think that was out yet when I made the poll.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on September 17, 2013, 08:58:51 AM


Surprising to see votes against the "trusted" brands like S&W, Sig and Ruger.  It would be interesting to know why.

I voted for a few "trusted brands" - they are admittedly not in the same category as Taurus and Hi Point. But, there are just a few guns I will never buy or buy again. I'll probably never buy a Glock again. I've owned 5 in years past. No chance I'll buy one again.

Now, I didn't vote for Rock Island Armory - but, that's probably another brand that there is zero chance of me ever buying.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: rmorrow on September 17, 2013, 09:59:04 AM
i was going to vote beretta because they replaced the 1911 with it and i thing it won because it was idiot proof  and the none combatant would not shoot them selves ........ :icon_wink:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on September 27, 2013, 08:01:38 AM
 :facepalm:

 :th_thicon_lol: :th_thicon_lol:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: sanspeu1r on November 14, 2013, 06:00:55 AM
Also voted for Kimber over price, could buy a lot of ammo for the difference in price, and nothing can replace practice.  Took a golf lesson, and the pro heard me complaining about needing a better club.  He took my putter and hit a 200+ yard drive.  Its not the tool, its the driver behind the tool. just MHO.






"if it ain't broke, don't fix it."   Cowboy wisdom
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on February 27, 2014, 04:34:26 PM
Anyone else?
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Army 1911 on February 28, 2014, 12:47:14 PM

any that don't make a 1911 pattern pistol.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Ballew on April 11, 2014, 03:01:33 PM
LMAO @ Army 1911s quote: "Sure Ill shoot your glock . Just hang it with the rest of the targets"
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Ironhorseromo on April 11, 2014, 03:10:18 PM

LMAO @ Army 1911s quote: "Sure Ill shoot your glock . Just hang it with the rest of the targets"
Lmao!
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: ArmedTexan on July 31, 2014, 01:25:34 AM
The only gun that I have ever sold was a Taurus. I bought it for my wife to learn how to shoot, however that damn thing jamed or stove piped every 2-3 rounds. The straw the broke the camels back was the cheap plastic grips (both sides) cracked near the screw as my wife was shooting it. Taurus did replace those grips for free, but as soon as I received them in the mail i replaced them and sold that gun. I will never buy another Taurus.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on July 31, 2014, 06:09:03 AM
I hear ya. Taurus is not a gun I would buy again either.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: TwoOneOH! on August 05, 2014, 03:36:07 AM
I voted for the Hi-Point based on their appearance only. Admittedly I don't have any experience with their products to vote performance, but their pistols are hideous :sick2:. I also voted SIG, as reliable as they may be I can't stand DA/SA pistols (or high bore placement). I'm sure they have their place, its just not in my holster..so in all fairness I could have thrown in a vote for a few more manufacturers, but I'm sure you get the point.

I'll stick Single Action or Striker Fired.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: BWM243 on October 27, 2014, 04:50:09 PM
You have left out FN on both. I have a FN  40 FNX that do a very good job for me came with 3 mag 14 rounds. This gun is a USA made and they did a very good job! It is a shooter. They also make some good long guns.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on October 27, 2014, 06:02:34 PM
You have left out FN on both. I have a FN  40 FNX that do a very good job for me came with 3 mag 14 rounds. This gun is a USA made and they did a very good job! It is a shooter. They also make some good long guns.

Yes, you are correct. I missed that
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Countryside on December 28, 2014, 03:22:27 PM
"Never" buy?  Such strong wording.  A gun that I have avoided for a long time is....believe it or not....Smith & Wesson.  I know I should be more forgiving, but a good while back I bought a new S&W 1911.  It couldn't finish a magazine that it did not jam up.  I tried different mags, ammo, springs, etc.  One trip back to S&W....still jammed up.  Second trip back to S&W....same issues.  Third contact they offered to work on it again...sold it at a loss.
Oh, and Taurus I will not buy after having had two bad ones.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: magnawing on December 28, 2014, 06:29:56 PM
I'm on tapatalk so can't do the poll but...I won't be caught dead with another Glock.  Mostly because I almost got dead when my recoil spring broke while returning fire with my Gen 1 G17 back in '92.  I replaced it with a Beretta and never looked back.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Jeb_66 on December 29, 2014, 11:24:23 AM
Dang.


Good call on the Beretta though. Lol.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on April 05, 2015, 11:16:58 AM
 :bumpsign: :bumpsign:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: TexanVeteran6113 on April 05, 2015, 11:59:56 AM
Yeah, I won't buy Taurus just because i don't like them, but I actually wanted a glock back in 2001 until I saw my buddy who was a glock instructor at the range almost get killed when the slide stop didn't stop the slide and it nailed him square in face just a little north of between the eyes...   :th_thicon_lol:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on April 05, 2015, 12:15:28 PM
Yeah, I won't buy Taurus just because i don't like them, but I actually wanted a glock back in 2001 until I saw my buddy who was a glock instructor at the range almost get killed when the slide stop didn't stop the slide and it nailed him square in face just a little north of between the eyes...   :th_thicon_lol:

The front of the slide hangs down a bit to hold the recoil spring in. I don't see how that would happen. Wow.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Vec on April 05, 2015, 02:20:55 PM
i will never buy a "new" S&W because of the "agreement" between Smith & Wesson and the Clinton Administration
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Ironhorseromo on April 05, 2015, 04:37:58 PM
i will never buy a "new" S&W because of the "agreement" between Smith & Wesson and the Clinton Administration
What agreement?
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: tx_oil on April 05, 2015, 04:47:22 PM
Glock.

Not bashing their quality or performance, I will just never spend  money on a Glock.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: JohnnyDollar on April 06, 2015, 09:36:59 AM
i will never buy a "new" S&W because of the "agreement" between Smith & Wesson and the Clinton Administration
What agreement?
http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/New/html/20000317_2.html (http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/New/html/20000317_2.html)
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Ironhorseromo on April 06, 2015, 12:09:40 PM
Thanks Johnny
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Tarosean on April 06, 2015, 12:54:26 PM
zero interest in Hi Point anything an 1911's from outside North America.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: djfrostbyte on May 11, 2015, 11:49:53 AM
I would never buy a Taurus handgun.  I have heard from too many friends, gun shop owners, retailers, and other people I trust that they are junk.  The one gun store I went to I spoke with the manager and he said that 9 out of 10 guns brought there to be returned for service are taurus firearms.  He even said their revolvers have clearance issues and hammer springs that break etc.  Nah... i'll spend my money elsewhere. 
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: JPoodlehat on May 28, 2015, 06:36:12 PM
Looks like no one likes hi-point. I didn't see that in the list or I would have voted that. Those things are so cheap you really get what you pay for.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Sorfin on October 21, 2015, 04:01:48 AM
Taurus and Hi Point, I dont know why people still buy from them.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: IMPD2079 on February 12, 2016, 01:07:50 PM
Highpoint
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on February 12, 2016, 02:33:22 PM
Interesting.. the ONLY company to have ZERO votes is FNH  :thinker:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: MGimbo on February 16, 2016, 09:32:38 AM
Taurus and Hi Point, I dont know why people still buy from them.
I may be the luckiest man on this earth but I have a 9mm 24/7 and my wife has a .380 TCP and we have never had one problem with either. The 9mm has only gone through about 400 rounds and my wife went through her LTC class with no problems. BTW she is not Annie Oakley but she passed firing her first 50 rounds. Go figure.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Right2Carry on June 04, 2016, 05:38:24 PM
I voted Glock and my Leg thanks me for my thoughtfulness.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Centropyge on June 06, 2016, 12:43:24 PM
Keltec, Bersa, Rock Island (and SCCY are no-no for me.

I should also add Glock...

Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: DCD327 on October 28, 2016, 01:54:24 AM
My brother only had one 9mm auto, and he couldnt hit the side of a barn with it.   :bangheadonwall: He ASSUMED that was just the way 9mm autos were and kinda ask me about it to that effect.  So I went out one day to visit. His junker was throwing crap all over the place. Even off the bench, it wouldnt hold a 12 inch group @ 25 yards.   :facepalm:
 I took two 9mm autos.
1. Beretta 92 fs.
2. CZ 75 bd.

After shooting both, and  drilling the target quite nicely with both,   I told him to throw that pile of scrap away and go buy a real gun.
 He did.  :P
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Countryside on October 28, 2016, 07:26:14 AM
I thought Armscor and Rock Island were basically the same.
Title: racoon1000
Post by: Shipwreck on October 28, 2016, 10:15:46 AM
I thought Armscor and Rock Island were basically the same.

They are made at the same place, at armscor. But, they sell them under something like 10 or 12 subforums. Rock Island is one of those brands. But not everyone knows that.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Alte Schule on July 14, 2017, 04:15:15 AM
Taurus. I bought my first and only Taurus, a 992 .22LR/.22 Mag conversion, a few years ago. Cylinder binding, trigger issues right out of the box. Their customer service was a joke. They will never get my money again.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: DCD327 on July 14, 2017, 02:46:41 PM
Taurus. I bought my first and only Taurus, a 992 .22LR/.22 Mag conversion, a few years ago. Cylinder binding, trigger issues right out of the box. Their customer service was a joke. They will never get my money again.

Ive seen 2 different 92  taurus knock offs that would cycle the ammo well enough.

but you couldnt  hit the side of a barn with the damn things. @ 25 yards the knock offs were lucky to hit the paper, let alone the black 8 inch ring. They were really  that bad.

BOTH guys went and bought Beretta 92 FS's  AFTER they shot mine with the same ammo  and seen the difference in accuracy. Ive NEVER owned a Beretta 92 that wouldnt keep EVERYTHING inside the  8 inch black @ 25 yards. In fact its usually pretty easy to do.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: GasGuzzler on April 22, 2018, 04:34:58 AM
Armscor and Rock Island should be together (one owns the other) and they make the best cheap 1911 out there.

Missing from the list of suck are Llama and Heritage.  Also possibly the worst single action I've ever held is missing....the pot metal framed Rohm junk import from Germany.  Ever seen a Caracal?  Don't bother. 

Of the choices given, the only one I would never consider is HiPoint.  That's not to say I would likely not buy several of the others but the percentage chance is a single digit, not ZERO like with HP.  There's also evolution.  Old school original Rossis are pretty nice back when they were close copies of S&W.  In the middle years they were re-braded Taurus....not as good.  Then they were just replaced by Taurus....really not good.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Alte Schule on April 22, 2018, 07:07:37 AM
Agree with you on the above especially Rohm/RG and Arminus. Found an RG and a Arminus, both in .38 Special, and a Llama .380 while cleaning out my father in laws office a few months after he passed away. He was a "thrifty" old dude and had some nice long guns but why he bought that crap is beyond me. I sold both revolvers for around $70 and kept the Llama. It was an OK gun but nothing I would buy personally. Never had an issue with it and gave it to a family member about 25 years ago.
I would probably buy a Hi Point carbine in 9mm if I could find one locally. Seems that the word is out that they are a good bang for the buck.   

Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on April 22, 2018, 02:12:17 PM
Armscor and Rock Island should be together (one owns the other) and they make the best cheap 1911 out there.

I know, but Armscor sells under many other names too - differing over the years it seems. Not everyone knows that they own Rock Island. That's why I put them on the list seperately
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: GasGuzzler on April 26, 2018, 05:38:44 AM
I would probably buy a Hi Point carbine in 9mm if I could find one locally.
I didn't think of that since this is a handgun topic but you might be right.  Off topic I know but I think I would rather lean towards the Kel-tec sub2000 since it folds and has much better magazine choices.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Alte Schule on April 26, 2018, 08:49:18 AM
I would probably buy a Hi Point carbine in 9mm if I could find one locally.
I didn't think of that since this is a handgun topic but you might be right.  Off topic I know but I think I would rather lean towards the Kel-tec sub2000 since it folds and has much better magazine choices.
Have a Sub 2000 that takes the Glock magazines. It's OK but for me it's uncomfortable to shoot. Very accurate though. I'm on the fence about keeping it.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: DCD327 on April 27, 2018, 10:27:46 AM
The JR Carbines are pretty good. I got a takedown model in 9mm and love it.
Although I dont own a glock, after reading reviews,  I got the glock mag version and with G17 mags, its never had a rifle malfunction ftf/fte in over 5000 rounds.

I had read reviews where the other  mags had problems running.

Also very accurate @ 100 + yards, especially cold bore. Once you get the barrel pretty hot if you fire rapid about 50+ rounds, the group starts to open up a little.

I like the facts they have AR trigger group and furniture.
They will run any ammo dirty or clean.
The design blows most of the powder residue out the ejection port, so cleaning is not needed hardly ever and this thing just dont care about dirt anyway. Ive ran 1500+ rounds, pulled the bolt and it was surprisingly clean.
Also totally ambidextrous with the safety and bolt charging handle if desired. You can even eject out the left side.

I think they are worth the extra $$$.

I use mine for varmint /coyote hunting. Its my "go to" for 200 yard & under.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Alte Schule on April 27, 2018, 10:53:15 AM
I see Just Right offers a carbine in .357 Sig. That is very interesting to me and would pair well with the Model 33 Glock that's in my safe.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: GasGuzzler on April 28, 2018, 04:59:25 AM
The Just Right website is awful so maybe someone can give me a ballpark price on a 9mm take-down.

EDIT - Nevermind.....I see the MSRP is $649.  Ouch....hope the street price is better.  I could build a 9mm AR for less than that.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: DCD327 on April 29, 2018, 10:43:30 PM
The Just Right website is awful so maybe someone can give me a ballpark price on a 9mm take-down.

EDIT - Nevermind.....I see the MSRP is $649.  Ouch....hope the street price is better.  I could build a 9mm AR for less than that.

I also have AR's, and trust me,, for a 9mm carbine,, the JRC  is way better for several reasons.

The blow back bolt design will run any ammo you stuff in it dirty or clean.
Basically never needs cleaned. And if it does, tear down is fairly simple, but not as simple as bolt removal in an AR. The stock needs the castle nut removed and the buffer tube and bolt drops right out the rear. 
The take down model fits in a backpack with less than a minute for assembly, and its dead nut accurate once assembled. The barrel is just about the simplest thing there is to change. Its slotted with pins, so straight in, straight out. All you do is unscrew the threaded hand guard and pull it out. Which also makes chamber cleaning easy.

I had some really cheap generic ammo have the brass basically come apart, split rims, chunk out,  but the rifle still functioned perfectly with feed and eject. I actually didnt realize the brass was coming apart until I was picking it up. The same ammo  tried in a beretta 92 produced FTE's. Which I found totally amazing that a 92 was having trouble with the ammo. Thats just unheard of in a 92,, so it must have been some really crappy stuff to begin with.
But the JRC ran it no problem. Buds gun has a gen 3,  glock mag, black takedown just like mine listed right now for $567.

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/2084_36_1817/products_id/719007558/JRC+Gen3+Tkdn+9MM+17in+17Rd

I paid almost $750 OTD  for my take down several years back, and I still think it was worth every penny and dont regret it one bit.

Mine did come as a complete kit with the back pack, all neccesary tools, etc.

And it is incredibly accurate as it has a purpose built 9mm barrel.


Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: FiveSeven on June 03, 2018, 02:11:37 PM
Walthers and Glocks. Walther jams so much its impractical to use in a high stress situation, and Glock is like the Toyota Corolla of guns.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on June 03, 2018, 02:22:44 PM
Walthers and Glocks. Walther jams so much its impractical to use in a high stress situation, and Glock is like the Toyota Corolla of guns.

What Walther did you own? I have a p99 A/S, and owned sevdral years ago. They ran/run great. Also owned a PPQ years ago.
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Tango on June 03, 2018, 02:26:16 PM
Walthers and Glocks. Walther jams so much its impractical to use in a high stress situation, and Glock is like the Toyota Corolla of guns.

the Corolla is 'sposed to be a good car and your 5.7 isn't built much different than a Glock
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on June 03, 2018, 02:51:35 PM
Walthers and Glocks. Walther jams so much its impractical to use in a high stress situation, and Glock is like the Toyota Corolla of guns.

the Corolla is 'sposed to be a good car and your 5.7 isn't built much different than a Glock

The Five Seven is actually not striker fired. It has a hammer that is buried in the frame. It is basically SAO
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: FiveSeven on June 03, 2018, 03:52:45 PM
Walthers and Glocks. Walther jams so much its impractical to use in a high stress situation, and Glock is like the Toyota Corolla of guns.

the Corolla is 'sposed to be a good car and your 5.7 isn't built much different than a Glock

What I meant was theres so many of them they arent anything special  :th_thicon_lol:, as opposed to my Beretta's which I equate to the Ferrari of guns.

The Five Seven is actually not striker fired. It has a hammer that is buried in the frame. It is basically SAO

Good to know.  :th_thicon_idea:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: satx78247 on June 03, 2018, 04:00:03 PM
To All,

Personally, I won't spend a dime with any company, no matter what they produce/market/sell that I have found that "cooperates with" and/or "donates to" ANY of the DIMocRATS and/or LEFTIST political groups.
(There are plenty of companies that make a practice of NEVER collaborating  with THE ENEMIES of LIBERTY to spend money with any company that does.)


yours, satx
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Tango on June 03, 2018, 05:21:27 PM

What I meant was theres so many of them they arent anything special  :th_thicon_lol:, as opposed to my Beretta's which I equate to the Ferrari of guns.

thanks for the chuckle of the day.....if you honestly believe that (and can say it without smiling), my friend, then you really really need to get out more   :th_thicon_lol:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: FiveSeven on June 03, 2018, 05:52:52 PM

What I meant was theres so many of them they arent anything special  :th_thicon_lol:, as opposed to my Beretta's which I equate to the Ferrari of guns.

thanks for the chuckle of the day.....if you honestly believe that (and can say it without smiling), my friend, then you really really need to get out more   :th_thicon_lol:

Youre welcome.  :thumbsup1:

What would you suggest is the Ferrari of guns?
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Tango on June 03, 2018, 06:16:46 PM
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I've got some very "nice" pistols - GI, STI, Nighthawk, Luger, Browning, Ed Brown, Coonan - but none that I'd consider as "the Ferrari of guns" - never come across such a thing but it sure as heck isn't a Beretta
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Alte Schule on June 03, 2018, 06:24:51 PM
I'll vouch for Tango's Coonan. Like buttah! :th_thicon_idea:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: K-Texas on June 03, 2018, 06:48:35 PM
Regardless of all of the QC hype, no gun manufacturer is beyond letting the occasional lemon get past them, and into circulation.

Now think about the cost of a firearm as compared to an auto where just as many lemons escape.

That puts the onus on the consumer! How much research do you put into a product before you buy it? :icon_wink:
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Roaster17 on February 04, 2019, 04:14:55 PM
I didn't see sarsilmaz on the list... but I'd buy from them !!
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on February 04, 2019, 04:48:58 PM
I didn't see sarsilmaz on the list... but I'd buy from them !!

This thread is for guns you would NOT buy. Not ones you would
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Shipwreck on June 11, 2019, 08:50:43 AM
Bump for the new people!
Title: Re: What handgun manufacturer will you not buy from?
Post by: Axxe55 on June 11, 2019, 11:06:20 AM
Rossi, even thought owned by Taurus, the Rossi's just look, well, sort of cheap!
Chiappa, don't really have any experience with the brand, but the ones I have seen just didn't appeal to me enough to even consider buying one. And to be honest, they may even be great guns.
Kimber! They have a crappy warranty period, and poor customer service from what I have read for years. With the amount they are charging for a so-called top-end 1911 platform pistol, I expect way more than they deliver. I would only buy a Kimber used and for the price expect that it has issues and pay accordingly.
Para-Ordinance, it is more about ergonomics. Those pistols should come with a side-load sign attached to them! I don't have huge hands, but I do have long fingers and they are even a bit wide and uncomfortable to me.
Remington. I add them simply because even though I use to be a huge fan of Remington products and own quite a few, even a Remington R1 1911 pistol, it seems their QC has slipped badly over the last few years. I'd still buy Remington, just older models.