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Army rifle replacement program canceled before it takes off
« on: September 22, 2017, 03:42:45 PM »
Army rifle replacement program canceled before it takes off



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Just one month into its official existence, a program to replace the Army’s M4 carbine with a 7.62 mm rifle has been canceled, Army Times has confirmed.

First reported Thursday by The Firearm Blog, the Interim Combat Service Rifle had been in development since at least this spring and was officially announced in August when the Army sought industry samples to produce up to 50,000 rifles.


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Re: Army rifle replacement program canceled before it takes off
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2017, 04:10:07 PM »
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don't really care if it replaced, or not.....

but, remember when "mm" used to be "caliber" ? (7.62mm = .30 cal)

I'm glad that kilometers never replaced miles, et al (friggin' metric system !)  who the heck wants to own a "meter stick" (vs a "yard stick"

and in school I ran the 100 and 220 yard sprints and the 440 yard relay - have never been able to associate this "meters" stuff (but.....I'm old  :icon_wink:)
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Re: Army rifle replacement program canceled before it takes off
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2017, 04:43:54 PM »
When you don't care about the ounces you'll bitch about the pounds.. 7.62 is heavier to carry and for those of you who thinks it doesn't matter, you obviously have never carried a combat load... It freaking matters. 

The 5.56 exists and is still in wide use for a reason. Because it does exactly what it's intended to do.  GPMG and DMS crews run another caliber if necessary but for suppression and encounters within 100 yards 5.56 still works and is very effective.
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Re: Army rifle replacement program canceled before it takes off
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2017, 05:01:45 PM »
To All,

While I don't think it's necessary to replace the M4 for "general issue", we BADLY need a MBR for "specialized uses".
(Our Designated Marksmen in the Military Police, for just ONE "specialized use".)

I further think that it's long PAST TIME to PICK a suitable MBR (that we can buy "off the shelf") & quit "talking about" that subject. = Just BUY as many rifles as we need for "special duty".

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Re: Army rifle replacement program canceled before it takes off
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2017, 06:19:25 PM »
To All,

While I don't think it's necessary to replace the M4 for "general issue", we BADLY need a MBR for "specialized uses".
(Our Designated Marksmen in the Military Police, for just ONE "specialized use".)

I further think that it's long PAST TIME to PICK a suitable MBR (that we can buy "off the shelf") & quit "talking about" that subject. = Just BUY as many rifles as we need for "special duty".

yours, satx
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Re: Army rifle replacement program canceled before it takes off
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2017, 06:33:15 PM »
While I never liked the short M4 and much preferred the M16A2,, I think the 5.56 is sufficient for general use, The added velocity of about 400 FPS and better accuracy when used in the M16 certainly does make a difference IMO.

IMO, We do need an 18' or 20' inch 308 version in the arsenal. Not everyone needs one, but scattered through all units as a specialized long range weapon to take care of what the M4 cannot.

But there is not any need to go through any XM test and waste a billion dollars in taxpayers money and 5 or 10 years of bullshit paper work and politics. .

Just go buy the damn things.
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Army rifle replacement program canceled before it takes off
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2017, 08:56:04 AM »
To All,

While I don't think it's necessary to replace the M4 for "general issue", we BADLY need a MBR for "specialized uses".
(Our Designated Marksmen in the Military Police, for just ONE "specialized use".)

I further think that it's long PAST TIME to PICK a suitable MBR (that we can buy "off the shelf") & quit "talking about" that subject. = Just BUY as many rifles as we need for "special duty".

yours, satx
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Can they just not use AR-10s?
If the government "just" did that they could not cash in on all those juicy kickbacks from the bidding process.

I think the SEALS use the HK417. It's the perfect rifle for the job. Just order five thousand plus mags and junk and call it good.