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Re: Okie CHL stops a mass shooting
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2018, 12:47:17 AM »
The liberals are going to deny it ever happen


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Re: Okie CHL stops a mass shooting
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2018, 07:45:34 AM »
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have read and seen a number of reports of the "stopping of the bad guy" but haven't seen anything saying the good guy (with a gun) was a CHL holder (?)

also, wonder what the "guns allowed/not allowed" policy of the restaurant is (?)

kudos, however, to the "hero" - perhaps story this'll implant, in the pea-brains of potential bad guys, the fact that there are people who are capable of and will "deal" with evil-doers
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Re: Okie CHL stops a mass shooting
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2018, 08:31:34 AM »
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have read and seen a number of reports of the "stopping of the bad guy" but haven't seen anything saying the good guy (with a gun) was a CHL holder (?)

also, wonder what the "guns allowed/not allowed" policy of the restaurant is (?)

kudos, however, to the "hero" - perhaps story this'll implant, in the pea-brains of potential bad guys, the fact that there are people who are capable of and will "deal" with evil-doers

Kudos indeed!

If your "hero" violated the restaurant gun policy, in this instance, would you care?

I would submit this incident, particularly if this was a 'gun free zone', could change many attitudes toward citizens stopping disturbed individuals with weapons.


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Re: Okie CHL stops a mass shooting
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2018, 09:00:01 AM »
It looks like the good guy was outside the restaurant when he engaged the bad guy according to OKC PD, who reported that  "A bystander with a pistol confronted the shooter outside the restaurant and fatally shot him."

Here's the (alleged bad guy:) taking the ground temperature challenge:



And interestingly enough, the snowflakes have started up again...

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Re: Okie CHL stops a mass shooting
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2018, 09:11:13 AM »

If your "hero" violated the restaurant gun policy, in this instance, would you care?

wouldn't "care" a bit about the fact that the country now has 1 less worthless p.o.s. running around doing evil

would care for the "hero" if he had violated or was going to violate the restaurant's gun policy
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Re: Okie CHL stops a mass shooting
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2018, 09:12:07 AM »
Tango I saw 1 article / tweet when I posted this that said the good guy was a CHL.  Let me see if I can go back and find that.

(On the other hand, if the bad guy is dead, do you care if it was by the hands of a CHL holder, a rabid coyote or zombies  :scream3:  )

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Re: Okie CHL stops a mass shooting
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2018, 09:13:26 AM »

would care for the "hero" if he had violated or was going to violate the restaurant's gun policy

Ditto, and I'd gladly send him $'s for a defense fund if he was indicted.  But in OKC, I'm pretty sure that 'ain't gonna happen'.

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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2018, 09:17:37 AM »
It looks like the good guy was outside the restaurant when he engaged the bad guy according to OKC PD, who reported that  "A bystander with a pistol confronted the shooter outside the restaurant and fatally shot him."

yes, read and understand the "outside the restaurant" aspect - concerned for the good guy tho if he was in violation of "okie carry laws" - or if the restaurant has "no no laws, regards firearms", did the fellow violate that policy (law) by having been in the restaurant earlier

not trying to short-sheet the guy - simply hope his action was "legal" (for his sake..)
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Re: Okie CHL stops a mass shooting
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2018, 09:41:00 AM »
It looks like the good guy was outside the restaurant when he engaged the bad guy according to OKC PD, who reported that  "A bystander with a pistol confronted the shooter outside the restaurant and fatally shot him."

yes, read and understand the "outside the restaurant" aspect - concerned for the good guy tho if he was in violation of "okie carry laws" - or if the restaurant has "no no laws, regards firearms", did the fellow violate that policy (law) by having been in the restaurant earlier

not trying to short-sheet the guy - simply hope his action was "legal" (for his sake..)

Understand and agree.  On the other hand, consider the number of OKC TV stations, OKCPD senior officials, persons in the restaurant and citizens in general have gone on TV calling the guy a hero, I'm guessing anyone trying to prosecute him in conservative OKC would be run out of town, not to mention he'd have hundred of pro bono lawyers working for him. 
With elections less than 6 months away, my guess is no prosecutor is willing to touch the guy for even jaywalking.


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Re: Okie CHL stops a mass shooting
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2018, 10:07:51 AM »
My gut feeling was that this incident stemmed from a domestic problem. Unless you live in Chicago an armed person entering a restaurant and randomly targeting a mother and daughter, or any innocent person, is a fairly rare occurrence. You know Occams Razor. There usually is a reason for someone to shoot another person. However screwed up that reason(s) or that persons thinking may be. I am well aware that random shootings do occur. I'm sure that law enforcement will eventually put this puzzle together.
On a related note, two weeks ago the Oklahoma Governor vetoed a well supported constitutional carry bill. Oklahoma carry laws and regulations are very similar to Texas LTC law. Oh, and kudos to the armed citizens. 
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Re: Okie CHL stops a mass shooting
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2018, 11:09:43 AM »
I propose we make these two gentlemen, Messers Whittle and Narario "Most Honored Members" of TGF:


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Re: Okie CHL stops a mass shooting
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2018, 11:13:25 AM »
...On a related note, two weeks ago the Oklahoma Governor vetoed a well supported constitutional carry bill. Oklahoma carry laws and regulations are very similar to Texas LTC law. Oh, and kudos to the armed citizens.

I don't think they can reintroduce but wouldn't surprise me if it comes up next session and is signed off.

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Re: Okie CHL stops a mass shooting
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2018, 11:42:35 AM »
...On a related note, two weeks ago the Oklahoma Governor vetoed a well supported constitutional carry bill. Oklahoma carry laws and regulations are very similar to Texas LTC law. Oh, and kudos to the armed citizens.

I don't think they can reintroduce but wouldn't surprise me if it comes up next session and is signed off.
It appeared to be a sure thing as she had pushed for and signed off on their current carry legislation a few years ago. Supposedly she had an issue with the no training requirement.
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Re: Okie CHL stops a mass shooting
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2018, 11:59:14 PM »
It looks like the good guy was outside the restaurant when he engaged the bad guy according to OKC PD, who reported that  "A bystander with a pistol confronted the shooter outside the restaurant and fatally shot him."

yes, read and understand the "outside the restaurant" aspect - concerned for the good guy tho if he was in violation of "okie carry laws" - or if the restaurant has "no no laws, regards firearms", did the fellow violate that policy (law) by having been in the restaurant earlier

not trying to short-sheet the guy - simply hope his action was "legal" (for his sake..)
Not sure about OK but in Colorado a business cannot have a policy that overrides state law on carry, open or concealed.  If you are carrying lawfully, all they can do is ask you to leave.  If you don't then you're a trespasser and then you're in some chit.  They can have as many no guns signs as they want, but if you conceal they have to spot it and tell you to leave

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Re: Okie CHL stops a mass shooting
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2018, 01:19:02 AM »
It looks like the good guy was outside the restaurant when he engaged the bad guy according to OKC PD, who reported that  "A bystander with a pistol confronted the shooter outside the restaurant and fatally shot him."

yes, read and understand the "outside the restaurant" aspect - concerned for the good guy tho if he was in violation of "okie carry laws" - or if the restaurant has "no no laws, regards firearms", did the fellow violate that policy (law) by having been in the restaurant earlier

not trying to short-sheet the guy - simply hope his action was "legal" (for his sake..)
Not sure about OK but in Colorado a business cannot have a policy that overrides state law on carry, open or concealed.  If you are carrying lawfully, all they can do is ask you to leave.  If you don't then you're a trespasser and then you're in some chit.  They can have as many no guns signs as they want, but if you conceal they have to spot it and tell you to leave

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Thats how PA is.

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We are also NOT required to inform.
So if its covered / concealed, really not a damn thing they can do about it. Tough shit.
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