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Unusual Beretta 92 at Classic Firearms
« on: July 26, 2017, 06:32:41 PM »
20 plus year old unissued/NIB Beretta 92D with night sights and the safety/decocker on the slide. I ordered 2 for my brother and I to experiment on. I've ordered a Beretta "G" conversion kit and a sear for each. Ron has several spare hammers, the proper pins and springs in his work shop.

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Re: Unusual Beretta 92 at Classic Firearms
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2017, 07:56:07 AM »
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For aesthetic reasons, the decocker/safety lever is present but has been disabled on this special edition police contract model.

Weird.  I'll be interested how this all works out. 
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Re: Unusual Beretta 92 at Classic Firearms
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2017, 03:31:48 PM »
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For aesthetic reasons, the decocker/safety lever is present but has been disabled on this special edition police contract model.

Weird.  I'll be interested how this all works out.

So how do you decock it?  My 92G decocks only. But that wording leads one to believe the safety does nothing.
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Re: Unusual Beretta 92 at Classic Firearms
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2017, 04:07:38 PM »

So how do you decock it?  My 92G decocks only. But that wording leads one to believe the safety does nothing.

I believe @NYPD they just fire remaining rounds into the ground / bystander.  :scream3: :scream3: :scream3:

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Re: Unusual Beretta 92 at Classic Firearms
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2017, 04:27:20 PM »
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For aesthetic reasons, the decocker/safety lever is present but has been disabled on this special edition police contract model.

Weird.  I'll be interested how this all works out.

So how do you decock it?  My 92G decocks only. But that wording leads one to believe the safety does nothing.


These are "D" models, they're DAO.  Ron and I suspect the safety levers in fact work, but with no sear or full cock notch the hammer always drops into the decocked position.

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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2017, 07:58:14 PM »
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For aesthetic reasons, the decocker/safety lever is present but has been disabled on this special edition police contract model.

Weird.  I'll be interested how this all works out.

So how do you decock it?  My 92G decocks only. But that wording leads one to believe the safety does nothing.


These are "D" models, they're DAO.  Ron and I suspect the safety levers in fact work, but with no sear or full cock notch the hammer always drops into the decocked position.

OK. So when you rack the slide to load, the hammer drops with the forward motion of the slide.  GOT IT.  ( I think) :thumbsup1:
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Re: Unusual Beretta 92 at Classic Firearms
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2017, 07:59:44 PM »

So how do you decock it?  My 92G decocks only. But that wording leads one to believe the safety does nothing.

I believe @NYPD they just fire remaining rounds into the ground / bystander.  :scream3: :scream3: :scream3:

Last shoot out in NYC I read about, The NYPD  hit the perp in the foot ONCE,,,, the other 137 rounds went,,,, well,,,,, just  " WHEREVER".   :P
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Re: Unusual Beretta 92 at Classic Firearms
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2017, 08:27:30 PM »
Yes. D model Beretta's mean double action only. Every time the slide runs the hammer rides the slide back forward instead of staying cocked for a single action shot. So every single trigger pull draws the hammer back and drops it. The weird thing about these is that the safety/decocker is still there, just inert.  So it does make me curious what all it would take to convert it to a G model. Hell, I have a hammer or two I could send you to play with if you wanted, but there are multiple pieces to the decocker function besides just the hammer and selector.

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Re: Unusual Beretta 92 at Classic Firearms
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2017, 08:29:21 PM »
I also have a few FS selectors as well if you wanted to try a new selector and hammer before buying parts you don't know will function.

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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2017, 10:47:34 PM »
Yes. D model Beretta's mean double action only. Every time the slide runs the hammer rides the slide back forward instead of staying cocked for a single action shot. So every single trigger pull draws the hammer back and drops it. The weird thing about these is that the safety/decocker is still there, just inert.  So it does make me curious what all it would take to convert it to a G model. Hell, I have a hammer or two I could send you to play with if you wanted, but there are multiple pieces to the decocker function besides just the hammer and selector.

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I dont believe I would care for that at all. 

Wouldnt it also then  have a long trigger reset ?
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Re: Unusual Beretta 92 at Classic Firearms
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2017, 08:59:09 AM »
Yes. D model Beretta's mean double action only. Every time the slide runs the hammer rides the slide back forward instead of staying cocked for a single action shot. So every single trigger pull draws the hammer back and drops it. The weird thing about these is that the safety/decocker is still there, just inert.  So it does make me curious what all it would take to convert it to a G model. Hell, I have a hammer or two I could send you to play with if you wanted, but there are multiple pieces to the decocker function besides just the hammer and selector.

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Thank you for the offer, Between my brother and I we have a pretty good selection of Beretta 90 series parts, the only bits both of us didn't have was a sear and a "G" conversion kit. I think I have a complete FS slide in one of the boxes packed up for the move.

Off topic, the wife will be closing on the sale of our CA house on the 15th of August, she's having the movers pick up everything on the 16th. She'll be out this way next week for interviews with 3 hospitals. Things are shaping up.

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Re: Unusual Beretta 92 at Classic Firearms
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2017, 10:52:52 AM »
Yes. D model Beretta's mean double action only. Every time the slide runs the hammer rides the slide back forward instead of staying cocked for a single action shot. So every single trigger pull draws the hammer back and drops it. The weird thing about these is that the safety/decocker is still there, just inert.  So it does make me curious what all it would take to convert it to a G model. Hell, I have a hammer or two I could send you to play with if you wanted, but there are multiple pieces to the decocker function besides just the hammer and selector.

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I dont believe I would care for that at all. 

Wouldnt it also then  have a long trigger reset ?

Absolutely.  Ever shot a Beretta 92FS in double action?  Every trigger pull would be just like that.  Granted with a lighter spring than the factory 92FS, but that's where the whole "D Spring" thing comes from.  Everyone buys that lighter spring intended for the D model and put in the FS model to get a better DA trigger pull.  But yes, it's still a long pull and long reset. 
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Re: Unusual Beretta 92 at Classic Firearms
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2017, 02:35:54 PM »
I really fail to see WHERE that would be an advantage for LEO.

Seems to me it would be the exact opposite.

Not only would that slow your shooting speed down, it would also greatly affect accuracy.

But I can see where it would help with ND's, as an intentional conscious trigger full  pull would be required for every shot.
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Re: Unusual Beretta 92 at Classic Firearms
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2017, 02:44:13 PM »
I'm guessing you're under 40 and likely 30. DAO pistols are an easy transition from a revolver. The trigger on a "D" version 92 is very similar to a factory K or L frame S&W revolver.

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Re: Unusual Beretta 92 at Classic Firearms
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2017, 03:03:48 PM »
I really fail to see WHERE that would be an advantage for LEO.

Seems to me it would be the exact opposite.

Not only would that slow your shooting speed down, it would also greatly affect accuracy.

But I can see where it would help with ND's, as an intentional conscious trigger full  pull would be required for every shot.

I personally only like DA/SA guns. I want the heavier DA pull. With the D spring, you can get around an 8lb 1st shot... Better than the 11+ lb ya get with the factory Beretta hammer spring.

Practicing, I can do pretty damn well with that 1st shot.

I have personally been in a situation where my adrenaline jumped up before. You DO see things in a tunnel vision. Science tells us our body tightens up in such situation, and this can include the tightening of the finger muscles. It IS too easy to have an accidental discharge in such a situation. I've read many reports of this happening to the police around the country in such situations. Does every officer do it? No. But some due.

I feel much more comfortable with that heavier and LONGER 1st shot if I am in a stressful situation. And, I practice enough that I am okay with it.

Heck, my carry gun is an HK P2000. I have left it stock. The DA pull IS 11 pounds for the first shot. I practice shooting in DA every time I shoot with it. I'm pretty good with that 1st DA shot. Comfortable enough to keep it as my carry gun.

That being said- I wouldn't want a gun where EVERY shot was in heavier DA.

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Re: Unusual Beretta 92 at Classic Firearms
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2017, 04:40:44 PM »
I also like a DA/SA hammer fired.

My 92's I just never messed with them. They were a tool and didnt exactly get treated the best. My 92 EDC's generally showed some battle scars in a short time. That was one of the reasons I did carry a 92 for so long was I knew it would go bang if needed no matter how bad I neglected it.

The heavy trigger was just the price of doing business.

I have my decocker CZ 75's  down to about 7lbs DA , with about  4 LB SA, both smooth as glass. You can also feel the break on both. After getting used to that, now the 92 triggers seem really heavy. I would really like on get my hands on  , say a Wilson 92 and see just how good they actually got the triggers.
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Re: Unusual Beretta 92 at Classic Firearms
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2017, 01:09:22 PM »
Picked up the guns on Saturday, work and family has had me too busy to do much. These were a great deal. The slides are "G" slides, ready to go out of the box. Ron dropped both onto one of his pistols to test. The conversion does require 1 part that both of us didn't remember the hammer release level is not installed, just a round spacer. Ron had the parts in his stuff, so for $35 in parts and an hours labor we now have 2 really nice 92Gs. I shipped both slides off Trijicon for relamp, $19 ($57 per slide) per lamp plus shipping is very reasonable.