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Shouldering the SIG Brace now Okay
« on: April 25, 2017, 10:23:54 AM »
You can shoulder your SIG brace now.  Amazingly enough the ATF makes a logically rationale decision! 

Amazing. I have long said that the ATF was wrong and misuse the definition of redesigned when they stated that merely shouldering a Sig brace made a short barrel rifle or short barreled shotgun.


As is typical for the ATF Tech Branch, their rulings are often in comprehensible and not based upon rational logic. In this particular case, if you had followed their rulings logic shooting a handgun with two hands redesigned it into an illegal, unregistered aw. As is obvious to anyone reading this, that is absolutely silly.

Finally comedy makers of the Shockwave brace have been able to get the ATF to reverse its decision and use the correct definition of redesign. This results in a more rational and logically consistent result.

So as I've been saying for 2 years, you are not going to go to jail for shoulder and your Sig brace. While I recommend that you register the weapon as an SBR, this revised ruling confirms that you may shoulder the pistol without fear of being harassed.


“an NFA firearm has not necessarily been made when the device is not reconfigured for use as a shoulder stock – even if the attached firearm happens to be fired from the shoulder. To the extent that the January 2015 Open Letter implied . . .*



https://www.sb-tactical.com/blog/sb-tactical-announces-reversal-atf-open-letter-use-sb-tactical-pistol-stabilizing-braces/


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Re: Shouldering the SIG Brace now Okay
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2017, 10:24:56 AM »


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Re: Shouldering the SIG Brace now Okay
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2017, 10:52:56 AM »
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ear protection might have been appropriate.....
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Re: Shouldering the SIG Brace now Okay
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2017, 11:23:02 AM »
This is cool. It is being discussed on the Beretta Forum. The problem is when there is a new president, and they change their minds again. That keeps me from doing this...

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Re: Shouldering the SIG Brace now Okay
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2017, 12:19:45 PM »
The problem is when there is a new president, and they change their minds again.

This, to the 43rd exponential power.

Obama in office:
"Let's make as many jackassed decisions as we possibly can, and see how many 'deplorables' we can send to prison for retarded reasons and simultaneously remove from the voting pool in advance of 2016."

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"The big guy is threatening us with dissolution and unemployment if we keep making vindictively backward and ethically bankrupt decisions, and he has the supreme court, legislative, and popular support to make it happen. Abort the stupid! Repeat: Abort the stupid!!"

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Re: Shouldering the SIG Brace now Okay
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2017, 01:26:17 PM »

From another forum:

"incidental, sporadic or situational" use of the brace as a stock is not a redesign."

Exactly.   But proving when the line is crossed will be hard in most instances.

" The last paragraph states, clearly, in my mind, that putting a brace on a pistol with the intent to use the brace as a stock does, in fact make the pistol into an SBR, even if the modification isn't permanent. "

Proving intent woukd be next to impossible in most situations.

"It gives the example of putting a 16" barrel on a shotgun - not permanent, but still makes the shotgun an NFA item."

Wrong. Putting a 16" barrel on a shotgun is per se illegal. 

 

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Re: Shouldering the SIG Brace now Okay
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2017, 01:48:01 PM »
As a former bureaucrat :)  I know how fast laws can go from hokey to common sense to back beyond oppressive.

Not willing to chance it.

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Re: Shouldering the SIG Brace now Okay
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2017, 11:28:47 AM »
I sure wish barrel length and suppressors would be removed from the NFA.  Lol. 
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Re: Shouldering the SIG Brace now Okay
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2017, 12:32:20 PM »
I sure wish barrel length and suppressors and SBR's and 3-shot-per trigger pull devices would be removed from the NFA.  Lol.
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Re: Shouldering the SIG Brace now Okay
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2017, 01:32:16 PM »
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Re: Shouldering the SIG Brace now Okay
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2017, 06:19:19 PM »
I sure wish barrel length and suppressors would be removed from the NFA.  Lol.

Me too!!