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Re: Two 14" Shotguns For Home Defense
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2017, 02:12:46 PM »
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god forbid any of us should have to deal with a home invasion - but.....that said.....if I was limited to have just 1 weapon to be my HD/nightstand it would be my 20ga Mossy pump (over any of the pistols or other long guns that I own)
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Re: Two 14" Shotguns For Home Defense
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2017, 03:06:49 PM »
Different strokes and all that, but why a 20 gauge pump gun? 


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Re: Two 14" Shotguns For Home Defense
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2017, 03:25:24 PM »
Different strokes and all that, but why a 20 gauge pump gun?  ..

for me ?  if so.....because I feel it's "enough"
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Re: Two 14" Shotguns For Home Defense
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2017, 04:14:10 PM »
The front bead sight is a nice touch. :icon_wink:

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Re: Two 14" Shotguns For Home Defense
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2017, 04:57:18 PM »
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looks like that thing would "rotate" around a couple of fingers when fired
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Re: Two 14" Shotguns For Home Defense
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2017, 05:55:17 PM »
Sterling Archer,

I've been in a couple of "shoot-outs" over the last 50 years where we were shooting at MUZZLE FLASHES because we couldn't see more than that. = In "the cornfield fight" in 1990 (OCONUS) we returned fire at person(s) who were shooting at us & come Sun-up we didn't know WHO was shooting at us.  We still do NOT.
(IF someone is firing at me, I will definitely return fire & QUICKLY.)

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Re: Two 14" Shotguns For Home Defense
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2017, 07:32:08 PM »
I thought we were talking about home defense not cornfield defense.    :th_thicon_question:

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Re: Two 14" Shotguns For Home Defense
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2017, 07:59:14 PM »
Sterling Archer,

SAME THING. = IF someone has broken into your home & fires on you, SHOOT BACK.
(Generally, our "family defense plan is "retreat to Sandra's bedroom, lock the doors, call 9-1-1 & only engage with gunfire IF someone gets past our GOOD solid-core doors/locks/alarms/CCTV cameras & MAX, our 80# boxer/pit cross.)

Sandra's only comment (the 1st time that we practiced the home defense plan) to the 2 nurses  & me was, "Whatever else you do, do NOT shoot my dog."
(We all said, almost in unison, "No Ma'am, we won't".)

Imo, "the old folks in North San Antonio" will be FINE until help arrives.

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Re: Two 14" Shotguns For Home Defense
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2017, 09:32:38 PM »
That doesn't really answer my first question though.  Aren't you using light?  Do you not use a WML or handheld?

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Re: Two 14" Shotguns For Home Defense
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2017, 09:40:22 PM »
I always leave certain lights on when I check the house before bed. I can check the entire house, seeing the sights the whole time, without turning on my wml or my handheld. My bedroom is the only exception, but if you manage to get in there you'll have a 100lb GSD to contend with while I debate which firearm to use... all of which have a wml on them.

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Re: Two 14" Shotguns For Home Defense
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2017, 10:20:10 PM »
Sterling Archer,

What the H is a "WML"??

As to lights, we really don't have much after "bedtime" except very small/low wattage night-lights to get around in the house.

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Re: Two 14" Shotguns For Home Defense
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2017, 10:35:29 PM »
Weapon Mounted Light

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Re: Two 14" Shotguns For Home Defense
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2017, 10:58:55 PM »
Jeb_66,

THANKS.

NOPE, NO light on ANY weapon for me, with the possible exception of a Starlight scope IF I could afford a nice one.
(Imo, a light on any firearm is an "aiming point" for an enemy.)

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Re: Two 14" Shotguns For Home Defense
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2017, 10:59:22 PM »
I always leave certain lights on when I check the house before bed. I can check the entire house, seeing the sights the whole time, without turning on my wml or my handheld. My bedroom is the only exception, but if you manage to get in there you'll have a 100lb GSD to contend with while I debate which firearm to use... all of which have a wml on them.

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Several years ago, I mentioned how I have small night lights all around the house... except for my bed room. I did the same with my condo. Several in each room.... There is no place in the shadows to hide in at my place.

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Re: Two 14" Shotguns For Home Defense
« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2017, 10:35:17 AM »
Jeb_66,

THANKS.

NOPE, NO light on ANY weapon for me, with the possible exception of a Starlight scope IF I could afford a nice one.
(Imo, a light on any firearm is an "aiming point" for an enemy.)

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I used to think that way until I sought low-light training. 

I'm guessing you haven't been on the receiving end of a Surefire X300U or Streamlight TLR-1 HL.  With them putting out 600 and 800 lumens, respectively, the advantage is all mine. 

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Re: Two 14" Shotguns For Home Defense
« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2017, 11:23:20 AM »
Jeb_66,

THANKS.

NOPE, NO light on ANY weapon for me, with the possible exception of a Starlight scope IF I could afford a nice one.
(Imo, a light on any firearm is an "aiming point" for an enemy.)

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I used to think that way until I sought low-light training. 

I'm guessing you haven't been on the receiving end of a Surefire X300U or Streamlight TLR-1 HL.  With them putting out 600 and 800 lumens, respectively, the advantage is all mine. 

Agreed.  I'm looking to get in on a Tiger Valley low light class soon, but definitely agree that a light (even if you have to have a handheld) is without a doubt a necessity.  Hell, I've got two on me right now.  Lol
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Re: Two 14" Shotguns For Home Defense
« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2017, 07:03:43 PM »
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I'm guessing you haven't been on the receiving end of a Surefire X300U or Streamlight TLR-1 HL.  With them putting out 600 and 800 lumens, respectively, the advantage is all mine. 

spot on... flashlight technology is leaps and bounds over what it was 10yrs ago...

your not going to be aiming at anything when your lit up with my surefire.


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Re: Two 14" Shotguns For Home Defense
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2017, 06:34:31 PM »
Tarosean,

INTERESTING. -  I'd still prefer a good STARLIGHT scope to fire from a covered/concealed ambush position. = Just "old fashioned"  I'd  guess.

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Re: Two 14" Shotguns For Home Defense
« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2017, 08:15:45 PM »
Well, for inside.. after you wake up - there is such a thing as TOO much light.

I once woke up and needed to find something near my bed. I turned on the flash light and didn't have the flashlight on low. Damn, I couldn't see.

I only get the normal TRL1s for my bedside guns.

If I was a cop, clearing a warehouse, then yes... I'd want the brightest. But I don't want a TRL1 HL on a night stand home defense gun. Sitting in a dark room and waiting a few minutes, and then trying your light is not the same as sleeping a while... THEN waking up, and THEN turning on a light that damn bright. You won't see either  :P

I also have a handheld light by my bed with multiple brightness settings. It is set on low by default.

The TRL1 is more than bright enough to use in my house at night after "I" have just woken up. That's what I use.

Now, I have something over 2000 lumens for when I am outside at night....
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Re: Two 14" Shotguns For Home Defense
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2017, 12:28:40 AM »
Funny how a thread can veer off into a tangent :)

For those of you who have lights around your house at night. What do you have planned for when the power is out?
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