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Offline AJ calls me RayRay

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Ammo Review
« on: January 21, 2013, 11:09:12 PM »
A few weeks back, I shot very well.  It was actually the Christmas Party and I was low score of the meet and that never happens.  I know a big part of it that day was nailing that rifle stage that Eddy came up with.  I teach rifle shooting to Boy Scouts and Venture Crews and believe it or not, there is a trick to rifle shooting so with everyone else adding time ripping out 4 rounds and taking the FTN, I was able to spin one of those tree ornaments on the first round. 

BUT, the very next week, I shot so crappy that I asked Adam if I could just pull my score card and out of pity, he acquiesced.  That day did not have to happen.

What's going on here?  I know I'm inconsistent.  Actually, I'm very consistent but only at being inconsistent but this was ridiculous.  One stage when we went down to count up the holes on the targets, there weren't any.  None.  It's frustrating when I see a good sight picture, press the trigger, and who knows where that damn bullet went.

Well, that got me to thinking; what am I doing different this week from last?  Since I’m one of those toothless Rednecks that we all know and love, I decided to blame it on the ammo.  I had used some Sellier and Bellot for the Christmas Party but I had just taken possession of some of Matt’s ammo the next week.  Gotta be the ammo, right?  Matt and I went back and forth trying to figure out what’s up but I was still stumped. 

So, I did something I really never do anymore.  I went to Shiloh, stood still and shot at paper.  I rounded up all the odds & ends of ammo I had laying around, loaded a couple 15 round mags with each and spent about an hour or more slow firing, as steady as I could, taking my time, into different targets.  Each target got 15 rounds thrown at it and I just wanted to see what happened. 

Some patterns were very tight, some opened up, and some had flyers with a tight cluster.  Basically I found out that I’m still consistently inconsistent but overall, it was a good test.  I thought back and I’m now pretty sure my busted up performance on Dec. 27th was because I skipped lunch that day.  You young’uns out there will find out when you hit yer 50’s, little things like that make a huge difference.  Matt's ammo had NOTHING to do with it!!!

Anyway, here are the targets.  All the targets were set out to 15 yards.  I wrote on each target what the ammo was.  The target that says “Black” is Matts Bayou 135gr plastic coated.  It used to be Green and I actually had one mag of the Green stuff.   The 147gr is Matts Friendswood 147 gr.  USA is stuff I bought from them about a year ago.  It’s 124 gr FMJ and the Sellior & Bellot is their 115 gr. FMJ.  I also shot a mag of 115gr JHP that came from Winchester.

The 147 gr. opened up the most so I guess my pistol doesn’t like it.  I didn’t have enough rounds for two full mags so the 2nd target is a little short on holes.  The Sellior/Bellot & USA both had the tightest groups.  However, USA’s 9mm prices got crazy high and Sellior/Bellot has been hard to find even before the current craziness.  The “Black” stuff still gave a 4” group at 15 yards which will certainly do the trick.  I had asked Matt to up the charge a bit for a tad more snap in the recoil but it didn’t seem to make a difference compared to the “Green” stuff which had his original powder charge. 

I shoot 9mm and I was using my Inox Beretta Cougar that I always shoot on Thursdays.  Except for having the trigger polished last summer, it’s had no work or modifications.  It’s straight out of the box with 20k or so rounds though it.

I hope this helps some of the shooters; especially those just starting out (like me).  I also encourage all of us to support the guys in the club that are loading as a side or main business venture.  There’s really no reason for any of us to be heading out to Wally World to buy ammo when our own guys make great stuff and for less money.

















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Re: Ammo Review
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2013, 03:24:28 PM »
I think Shiloh has a bench rest you can use - did you use that or were you just standing?

Are those pictures taken in the order you shot them?

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Re: Ammo Review
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2013, 09:25:47 PM »
I didn't use a bench rest and I didn't know they had one.  I could never get the hang of a bench rest with a pistol anyway.

The targets aren't in the order I shot them and I don't remember what that order was.  I took about 1.5 hours so I don't think I was getting  tired.  I also mixed up the mags in that I didn't shoot all 30 rounds of a certain type at once.  I did 15 of one and then 15 of another and so on.
Luke 22:35-38 "Gear up boys, I gotta go and it's gonna get rough." JC
-- Darrell Royal, former UT football coach - "If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em."