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..where the justice in Military Justice ?..
« on: January 17, 2018, 04:27:16 PM »
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headline today :  "US Navy collisions: Ex-commanders charged with negligent homicide"

this, at a time when b. bergdahl and c. manning are "out", walking around, free as birds  (well, tiptoeing around in manning's case)
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Re: ..where the justice in Military Justice ?..
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2018, 05:31:52 PM »
(well, tiptoeing around in manning's case)
OK, that made me LOL
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..where the justice in Military Justice ?..
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2018, 05:35:31 PM »
Not just the ship commanders but also several of their subordinates (to include one senior NCO, as I recall reading).  When multiple deaths are incurred as a result of careless and/or incompetence, I’m not surprised the military comes down hard on the commanders. 

As for those “other two” you’ve mentioned they were just exceedingly lucky (from a timing perspective), their cases where publicized by a worthless president and received by a news media that had their own liberal agenda to advance.

ETA:  The *real* tragedy in Bergdahl’s case, is that any attempt was made to track him down at the cost of other solider’s lives.  They knew he left his post of his own accord (AWOL); they should have just silently wished him, “good luck with that decision”. 
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Re: ..where the justice in Military Justice ?..
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2018, 06:25:10 PM »
I am with the Navy brass with this one. I spent time as a merchant seaman. Ships just don't run into one another unless there is negligence. Ships have miserable maneuverability. They take miles to turn, stop, speed up. Navy ships are slightly better.  All ships are required to have a constant look out, especially in darkness and situations of low visibility. I spent many a night freezing my ass off at the bow of the ship to comply with those requirements. Naval ships have enhanced capabilities with radar and other systems. In other words, somewhere on that ship is a color video scene that can see a rowboat within 20 (or more) mile radius of that ship. Someone was asleep at the switch. Or as I suspect, someone in charge was doing unsafe maneuvers in a crowded sea lane. The captain has ultimate responsibility for anything that happens to his ship. Any collision, running a ground, etc, the captain loses his ticket. The captain probably didn't have any knowledge of what was going on at the time. So he was probably very helpful in assigning guilt to those that deserved it.

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Re: ..where the justice in Military Justice ?..
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2018, 11:07:50 PM »
When they found out where berghal was at, they shoulda mailed him a JDAM.

The other one just flat out needed shot for treason.
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Re: ..where the justice in Military Justice ?..
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2018, 01:51:43 AM »
Bergdahl and Manning are huge embarrassments that both should be sitting in prison still. but all one has to do is look at who was in charge at the time to grant them pardons. nuf said.

what's really sickening is Manning deciding to run for the Senate!

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Re: ..where the justice in Military Justice ?..
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2018, 05:12:08 AM »
Bergdahl and Manning are huge embarrassments that both should be sitting in prison still. but all one has to do is look at who was in charge at the time to grant them pardons. nuf said.

what's really sickening is Manning deciding to run for the Senate!

Did not know Manning is thinking of such. I know there are enough Snowflakes and dead voters to elect 2 terms huseen O but does that guy think he could really win???
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Re: ..where the justice in Military Justice ?..
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2018, 06:07:47 AM »
Typical of any organization really.
The “man in charge” is responsible for the actions(or lack there of) of all those under his watch. The screw up the man pays the price.

The other two mentioned well y’all pretty much covered it as far as that.




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