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Off Topic Discussion (NON FIREARM RELATED) / Re: Where's the Movie Thread?
« Last post by TXAZ on Today at 12:05:27 PM »
If you have access to Turner Classic Movies, they have 3 days of war movies on this weekend.  So Is AMC.
The original 1944 version of "Memphis Belle", 12 O'clock High, and many more.
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Ammunition / Re: Follow Up
« Last post by GasGuzzler on Today at 04:33:30 AM »
My defense 9X19s are currently filled with Hornady OEM defense rounds.  My favorite .357 load is a whole bunch of AA2400 under a greasy chunk of lead (smokey load) so muzzle flash doesn't bother me.

I have CFE but no CFE-pistol.  I really need a new storage solution.  I thought an old school metal filing cabinet would be a great idea but I'm out of room and disorganized.
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Ammunition / Re: Follow Up
« Last post by K-Texas on Yesterday at 03:21:22 PM »
GG, from what I know, Hodgdon HS6 (a fine 9mm powder in its own right) has spawned at least 3 newer powders. The first was WAP. After a couple of years without it catching on to Winchester's satisfaction, they dropped it from their line. A fledgling Western Powder Co. at that time, acquired the rights to it and renamed it Ramshot Silhouette. It is very popular now and sees a lot of use in USPSA. Winchester would definitely like to do that one over after seeing Silhouette go on to great success. So, the 2nd HS6 offspring is Auto-Comp. It is great and widely used by USPSA shooters as well, but it has a very specific purpose that prevents it from being a good choice for defense loads. Winchester formulated it to give higher gas pressure at the muzzle to make compensators on race guns more effective. And as such, it has no flash suppressor in its chemistry. The #3 offspring is CFE Pistol which is chemically treated for low flash like Sihouette. A slightly different approach that they used are powder granules of differing sizes, but it is capable of higher velocity loads with low flash. HS6 is still popular among USPSA Major 9 competitors as well, but its flash can be to intense for self defense loads.

Flash, and how much you're willing to deal with is up to the individual handloader. I use nothing but spherical powders (ball-Type) these days. The last flake powders I used for 9mm were Power Pistol and Blue Dot. But when you shoot loads at night or at an indoor range, both of these flake powders produce intense fireballs out of the muzzle. And for those who want to make their own defense loads, regardless of caliber, I definitely recommend shooting your loads at night to know what to expect. Alliant has a flake powder that is chemically treated for low flash, and pretty much the low-flash version of Power Pistol. That would be BE-86.

Then powders like True Blue, AA#5 & #7 are all so dense and fine grained that they come by low flash naturally. True Blue is what I use for defense loads in .45 ACP and short barrel .357 Magnum loads where it really excels. #7 with the supersonic (around 1120 FPS at sea-level) 147 gr. JHP defense loads in 9mm and some magnum loads where less than MAX velocity is desired. #7 is capable of extremely good accuracy in .357 Magnum loads, but falls a bit short of #9, 4100 and Ramshot Enforcer in velocity. The latter 2 powders are identical, but sold under 2 different labels because Western did not own Accurate Powder Co. when 4100 was introduced.

And speaking of Western. they have recently added 2 new spherical powders. TCM, as can be assumed by its name, was made specifically for use with Armscor's .22 TCM cartridge. It does have application in others like the 10mm where a slower powder is wanted. 11FS is a new Magnum Revolver load propellant that is chemically treated to reduce flash in magnum cartridges. Since they are made by St. Marks in Florida, who make all the spherical handgun powders in the US, 11FS is very comparable to Alliant's first attempt with a spherical, 300-MP. All of Alliant's other pistol/shotgun powders are double-based flake types with a second exception that the new Sport Pistol is also spherical.

A couple of other newcomers worth mentioning come from Winchester. 572 is a high energy powder that essentially replaces W570 (also HS7) with lower powder charges achieving similar velocity. The other, that I look forward to trying is W244. It is similar to Alliant's Sport Pistol in terms of application, but more significantly, it is an updated version of W231, one of the most popular powders used by handloaders. W244 is cleaner burning and has copper fouling technology that appears to be the coming thing in cleaner burning powders like CFE Pistol.

There are plenty of powders that work well in 9mm. The thing here is that some are better than others where specific application like lower velocity Target loads, or USPSA Minor Power factor is the goal. HS6 and Blue Dot come from when I started handloading when they were the champions of high velocity in 9mm with the exception that Blue Dot is not stable enough for Major 9 loads while HS6 is. Getting a desired result comes through different and specific powder selection. Those that produce higher velocity will be slower in burn rate like HS6 and slower. Medium speed powders like the different versions of Unique to include Universal Clays and IMR Unequal to as fast burning as W231 are good choices for genaral use and target loads. Faster burners than W231 are common choices for loading minor power factor loads in 9mm. Some faster burning than I care to use personally. And the new W244, that IMO, is slightly faster burning than W231 is because of the newer formulation with things like copper fouling erasers and cleanliness increase its burn rate to slightly faster burning than W231. :icon_wink:
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Off Topic Discussion (NON FIREARM RELATED) / Re: WTH
« Last post by TXAZ on Yesterday at 03:02:51 PM »
...
I was a Scout from when I was 11 to 15. When I was 14 I was a military brat living in Germany. That year we had a big meeting in Bad Tolz, Germany of the European Council of American Scouts. About 1,000 kids. This was 1965 and The 10th Special Forces Group had just been activated at Bad Tolz. Several of the soldiers came over and mentored us. Gave us some real world training in booby traps and how to sneak and peek. It was awesome.

Our sons’ troop in Korea wanted to go mountain climbing.  That request was passed up to our sponsoring organization.
About 3 weeks later our Scoutmaster got a call from the 10th Mountain Division. (Seriously)
A month later a 1/2 dozen 10th Mountain Division instructors show up with “used” gear (some w/ tags still on it :) for a dozen boys.
Moral of the story: when your troop sponsor is the *General’s Wives Club* its amazing what you can do.
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Psyc,

PBS & NPR news shows have used that number several times. = TRUTH is that NOBODY has a precise figure for the number of illegal aliens  (MANY of whom are VICIOUS CRIMINALS),  who are hiding in the USA. =  ICE estimates the number of illegals is between 10-15 million persons.

yours, satx
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Off Topic Discussion (NON FIREARM RELATED) / WTH
« Last post by Shield45 on Yesterday at 12:19:25 PM »
Ill say this I went to a youth camp (notbsa) in the 70s YCC (youth conservation corp) we maintained trails etc for state in parks. However as a young 15 yr old male who was approached by a few yrs older female counselor lets say I got some special counseling. I have a hard time thinking girls in the BSA is anything but a terribly bad idea. 


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Defensive Tactics / Re: Okie CHL stops a mass shooting
« Last post by Alte Schule on Yesterday at 11:42:35 AM »
...On a related note, two weeks ago the Oklahoma Governor vetoed a well supported constitutional carry bill. Oklahoma carry laws and regulations are very similar to Texas LTC law. Oh, and kudos to the armed citizens.

I don't think they can reintroduce but wouldn't surprise me if it comes up next session and is signed off.
It appeared to be a sure thing as she had pushed for and signed off on their current carry legislation a few years ago. Supposedly she had an issue with the no training requirement.
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Off Topic Discussion (NON FIREARM RELATED) / Re: WTH
« Last post by Alte Schule on Yesterday at 11:34:53 AM »
TXAZ: I believe I read somewhere that some European countries allow into their ranks females and those that are confused as to whether the pants zipper should be worn in the front or back. If so issuing condoms for an event that will have scouts from all over the world is a logical next step. You know "be prepared"
I was a Scout from when I was 11 to 15. When I was 14 I was a military brat living in Germany. That year we had a big meeting in Bad Tolz, Germany of the European Council of American Scouts. About 1,000 kids. This was 1965 and The 10th Special Forces Group had just been activated at Bad Tolz. Several of the soldiers came over and mentored us. Gave us some real world training in booby traps and how to sneak and peek. It was awesome.
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Defensive Tactics / Re: Okie CHL stops a mass shooting
« Last post by TXAZ on Yesterday at 11:13:25 AM »
...On a related note, two weeks ago the Oklahoma Governor vetoed a well supported constitutional carry bill. Oklahoma carry laws and regulations are very similar to Texas LTC law. Oh, and kudos to the armed citizens.

I don't think they can reintroduce but wouldn't surprise me if it comes up next session and is signed off.
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Defensive Tactics / Re: Okie CHL stops a mass shooting
« Last post by TXAZ on Yesterday at 11:09:43 AM »
I propose we make these two gentlemen, Messers Whittle and Narario "Most Honored Members" of TGF:

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