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When is an SBR not an SBR
« on: January 11, 2018, 10:28:26 PM »
When the ATF  says so!

An announcement from Franklin Armory.

Trying to decide if this is fake or how they did it.

An sbr
Designed to be fired from shoulder
1.  Less than 16"
Or
2.  Less than 26" overall

Okay. My prediction.
1. They took a mission first tactical stock that weighs 6 oz and convince the ATF that it's a stabilizing blade by putting a strap around it

2. 1 rd per Trigger pull = rifle. This fires once when pulled and once when released. Therefore doesn't meet definition of rifle

Could they play off this definition to move it Into firearm catagory?



https://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2018/01/11/franklin-armory-introduces-short-barrel-firearm-standard-ar-stock-atf-approval/



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Re: When is an SBR not an SBR
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2018, 11:03:55 PM »
very interesting. i clicked on the link provided, and they mentioned some sort of l

"loophole" that allows them to manufacture them in this configuration, but no information as to what. now i'm confused.

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Re: When is an SBR not an SBR
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2018, 11:05:28 PM »
So.  ATF has confirmed that no letter has been issued for this firearm according to recoil web

http://www.recoilweb.com/has-franklin-armory-found-an-atf-loophole-132912.html


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Re: When is an SBR not an SBR
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2018, 11:13:49 PM »
When the ATF  says so!

An announcement from Franklin Armory.

Trying to decide if this is fake or how they did it.

An sbr
Designed to be fired from shoulder
1.  Less than 16"
Or
2.  Less than 26" overall

Okay. My prediction.
1. They took a mission first tactical stock that weighs 6 oz and convince the ATF that it's a stabilizing blade by putting a strap around it

2. 1 rd per Trigger pull = rifle. This fires once when pulled and once when released. Therefore doesn't meet definition of rifle

Could they play off this definition to move it Into firearm catagory?


3. smoothbore

Would be my best guess

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Re: When is an SBR not an SBR
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2018, 11:20:06 PM »
When the ATF  says so!

An announcement from Franklin Armory.

Trying to decide if this is fake or how they did it.

An sbr
Designed to be fired from shoulder
1.  Less than 16"
Or
2.  Less than 26" overall

Okay. My prediction.
1. They took a mission first tactical stock that weighs 6 oz and convince the ATF that it's a stabilizing blade by putting a strap around it

2. 1 rd per Trigger pull = rifle. This fires once when pulled and once when released. Therefore doesn't meet definition of rifle

Could they play off this definition to move it Into firearm catagory?


3. smoothbore

Would be my best guess
It may be the greatest rick roll of all time.



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Re: When is an SBR not an SBR
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2018, 11:47:10 PM »
So.  ATF has confirmed that no letter has been issued for this firearm according to recoil web

http://www.recoilweb.com/has-franklin-armory-found-an-atf-loophole-132912.html


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i read the article, and i'm even more confused! good article BTW.