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Re: Why the trend to striker fired pistols?
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2018, 10:41:29 AM »
I like all sorts of guns, but carry strikers (M&P). The only benefit I miss out on is the re-strike ability of a DA/SA.
My competition gun (M&P Pro 9) has a trigger that 1911 guys are shocked by, my carry guns have triggers that are about as light and short as would be advised for carry, and all just run so damn well that it almost looks like I know what I am doing.

I own a 1911, multiple DA/SA's, and a Colt Python, and want a bunch of other non-striker guns, but they are mainly for range fun.
K, so ...

I am formally one step closer to a striker pistol. I have been shopping a 9mm carbine from my Mechtech v. Kel Tec v. Ruger PCC consideration set. Ruger mucked up my choice with an incredibly tempting late entry but the trigger was pulled on the Kel Tec Sub2k last night. I found a gunbroker seller offering the M&P mag version for more than $100 under market - will have it in hand for $400 inc'l the $40 I'll give my FFL.

Followed up with a pair of 17rd S&W mags and a 32rd Promag from Grab-a-gun - these guys price mags very attractively. The big stick is mostly a novelty but if it works - I didn't give up any functionality selecting the M&P variant over Glock. Finally, I see that Armscor is offering mags for the M&Ps - how do they compare?

And, a companion pistol will be a follow-up purchase if the carbine is invited to stay.

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I had a similar conundrum and ended up going with the Ruger PCC and a Glock 19. The Glock is my only striker fired pistol and it did need some tweaks to make it completely usable, for me. I will tell you you might have made a mistake going with the KelTec, the Ruger PCC is far more accurate and lower recoil vs the CX4 and KelTec. I tried all three before making up my mind. 

This is a 25 yard offhand group with 50 rounds of 124gr Winchester NATO and 25 of 124gr +P Remington Golden Saber ammo.


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Re: Why the trend to striker fired pistols?
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2018, 10:50:26 AM »
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Re: Why the trend to striker fired pistols?
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2018, 11:30:23 AM »
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jesus christ fella - offhand at 25 yards - whatever you do for a living you need to quit it and become a Wild West Sharpshooter

 I am going to need a video of that.   :th_thicon_lol: :th_thicon_lol: :th_thicon_lol:
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Re: Why the trend to striker fired pistols?
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2018, 12:42:05 PM »
I like all sorts of guns, but carry strikers (M&P). The only benefit I miss out on is the re-strike ability of a DA/SA.
My competition gun (M&P Pro 9) has a trigger that 1911 guys are shocked by, my carry guns have triggers that are about as light and short as would be advised for carry, and all just run so damn well that it almost looks like I know what I am doing.

I own a 1911, multiple DA/SA's, and a Colt Python, and want a bunch of other non-striker guns, but they are mainly for range fun.
K, so ...

I am formally one step closer to a striker pistol. I have been shopping a 9mm carbine from my Mechtech v. Kel Tec v. Ruger PCC consideration set. Ruger mucked up my choice with an incredibly tempting late entry but the trigger was pulled on the Kel Tec Sub2k last night. I found a gunbroker seller offering the M&P mag version for more than $100 under market - will have it in hand for $400 inc'l the $40 I'll give my FFL.

Followed up with a pair of 17rd S&W mags and a 32rd Promag from Grab-a-gun - these guys price mags very attractively. The big stick is mostly a novelty but if it works - I didn't give up any functionality selecting the M&P variant over Glock. Finally, I see that Armscor is offering mags for the M&Ps - how do they compare?

And, a companion pistol will be a follow-up purchase if the carbine is invited to stay.

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Very cool Dred, I've been wanting to pick up the M&P Sub2K for a while, but it is low on the list.
I've never tried the M&P Promag or Amscor mags, but have never been impressed with Promag. Hope it works for you.
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Re: Why the trend to striker fired pistols?
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2018, 01:16:45 PM »
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I'm an ER/Trauma Nurse and retired Firefighter/Paramedic. I used to shoot bench rest rifle and bullseye pistol matches and still practice both shooting techniques once or twice a month. It has helped me learn how to keep my self steady and good trigger control. I have to admit, it was a good day with a rifle that fits me very well. Most of my groups with the PCC are about 25% larger. Don't ask me to shoot combat matches, I'm really slow, I tend to aim, re-aim, fire a shot, and then check my result. 

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Re: Why the trend to striker fired pistols?
« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2018, 01:27:32 AM »
Does one still have to take a class to obtain a Texas CCW permit? I was amazed that was the case in Texas. Here in Washington you go through a background check, pay the fee and your permit is mailed to you (we are a 'shall issue' state with no training requirement). Back to the subject; I enjoy shooting my Walther Creed with a pre-cocked (external) hammer. Best of both worlds, IMHO. P.S. Many years ago in the academy we were taught to eject a dud round immediately and never futz with attempting to re-strike same, no matter what style of pistol.

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Re: Why the trend to striker fired pistols?
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2018, 07:03:33 AM »
A license to carry (LTC), open or concealed, is still required. $40 for the license and usually around $50 for the 4 hr class and range qualification. If you can legally possess a firearm you can carry a loaded pistol in your vehicle without a permit as long as it is concealed from public view. Although many people choose to carry openly I do not unless I'm out in the boonies somewhere.
You would think that Texas, of all states, would have shall issue or constitutional carry laws but unfortunately if there is money to be made our legislators are going to be sure to get a piece of the pie for the state, their constituents and sometimes their friends and themselves.   
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Re: Why the trend to striker fired pistols?
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2018, 10:33:06 AM »
A license to carry (LTC), open or concealed, is still required. $40 for the license and usually around $50 for the 4 hr class and range qualification. If you can legally possess a firearm you can carry a loaded pistol in your vehicle without a permit as long as it is concealed from public view. Although many people choose to carry openly I do not unless I'm out in the boonies somewhere.
You would think that Texas, of all states, would have shall issue or constitutional carry laws but unfortunately if there is money to be made our legislators are going to be sure to get a piece of the pie for the state, their constituents and sometimes their friends and themselves.   

Well said, except we are "shall issue", just as long as the hurdles are jumped.
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Re: Why the trend to striker fired pistols?
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2018, 01:26:36 PM »
Yes, kind of contradicted myself there. Hoping the "by your leave" issues will be addressed, again, when the 2019 Legislative session convenes next January.
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Re: Why the trend to striker fired pistols?
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2018, 10:10:56 AM »
$$$$$ is the sole reason...

Striker fired are over 100yrs old.  First synthetic stocks 60yrs ago..  hell the first plastic fantastic pistol was almost 50yrs ago..

Seems the horse has been dead or decades, yet people are still beating it.

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Re: Why the trend to striker fired pistols?
« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2018, 08:03:53 PM »
The first mass produced slide operated handgun the FN1900 was a striker fired pistol. People like them (as do I) for the reason that there is less ‘stuff’ (like the hammer) to get caught on a pocket or some other piece of clothing. I really don’t care if a handgun is hammer fired or striker fired, I love all guns that go pewpew, and hit the target where I aimed. It’s the like the bolt or auto loading rifle argument.
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Re: Why the trend to striker fired pistols?
« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2018, 08:39:56 PM »
i was kind of late to the party with regards to polymer pistols. saw them first back in the late 1980's when the Glocks started hitting the gun stores, but they didn't really interest me at the time. got my first opportunity to shook a few Glocks in the very early 1990's, since i had a friend that got into them pretty heavily about that time. they were alright. didn't seem bad, but i enjoyed shooting them. but i enjoy shooting anything new or different anyways. early 2000's i ventured into buying my own first polymer pistol, a Walther P99QA in 40 S&W. very enjoyable pistol. well time went on and i have enjoyed owning quite a few different polymer pistols, and of all the ones i have owned, the Springfield Armory XD and XDm series are probably my favorites of all brands. i have no emotional, or sentimental attachment to polymer pistols like my other firearms, but accept that they do a job and do that job very well. they are the ones i own that would be sold or traded to gain another one, whereas my other guns would never be for sale or trade.

now one polymer pistol that has caught my attention that i would like to check, and if i like it enough to buy is the Sig Sauer P365. lightweight, 10+1 capacity, priced decently, and looks good so far to me to be interesting. this is the one that is on my list to check out to replace my Bersa Thunder 380. it would be a step up to having a lighter 9mm than the one i already have, and get me into a 9mm for carry purposes. much better selection of ammo in 9mm vs. 380 auto, and better prices.

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Re: Why the trend to striker fired pistols?
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2018, 05:27:06 AM »
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got 7 polymer pistols - 6 Glocks and an FN 5.7

g42
g26
g19  (x 2)  1 with RDS
g34  with RDS
g24  with RDS
FN 5.7

none is my favorite that I own but I like them all
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