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any new changes to your bags ?
« on: July 23, 2017, 09:42:50 PM »
has anyone made any changes/new additions/ subtractions
to your emergency/bugout/shtf/inch/get home bags as were
discussed in some of the older topics ?
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Re: any new changes to your bags ?
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2017, 11:10:58 PM »
I now have a backpack. I also have the large pack of aaa batteries. I will add my headlamp when I need it.  Yep! that's where I'm at with that.

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Re: any new changes to your bags ?
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2017, 07:10:56 AM »
I have D cell batteries.. I bought a bag that's probably too big.... not sure on that as I don't think the bag is finished.
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Re: any new changes to your bags ?
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2017, 12:20:50 PM »
I have a standard bugout bag that hasn't changed that much

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Re: any new changes to your bags ?
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2017, 01:56:43 PM »
any new changes to your bags ?

I only have one,, and  she's about the same.  :P
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Re: any new changes to your bags ?
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2017, 02:06:47 PM »
I added a couple hundred rounds of ammo to each of my bags, changed the 92 mags out for APX mags, refreshed my battery supplies, and checked the dates on all my stuff.  That was a few weeks ago. 
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Re: any new changes to your bags ?
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2018, 07:25:27 AM »
I haven't read any of the old replies, but unfortunately my Swiss Gear Internal Frame backpack is finally about to conk out, and despite their claims of a 'lifetime' warranty, it doesn't look like I'll be getting it repaired OR replaced. I will say one thing though -- having to use that thing practically every other day for the last 8 years has definitely taught me the value of having a good, reliable, comfortable backpack, with plenty of storage space and durability. My family and I no-joke remain in awe of how well it's held up over the years. However, some things I have noticed are:

1.) Even at 2,500 cubic inches of space, it -- at times -- still wasn't big enough,
2.) The main internal compartment was kinda narrow,
3.) It had a tendency to run pretty hot in the summer despite its back padding, and
4.) The straps were not ideal.

Taking the lessons I've learned from using that backpack nearly constantly, I have begun searching for a new all-purpose bag. Unfortunately it seems as though there are dozens of different styles of military surplus rucksacks, I've settled on this particular model (unfortunately known very ambiguously as the "MOLLE II" rucksack):



If I ever get my hands on one, I'll let you guys know. But that baby is rated to carry 200 lbs. in a pinch, and is large, open, and features one big main storage compartment exactly like I want; I've seen the pictures -- the central compartment is basically one big glorious giant storage pit. Moreover, the shoulder straps look much more comfortable, more thickly padded, and obviously it was designed to stay cool in the heat. Finally, at 5,000 cubic inches of storage space, it's twice as big as my Swiss Gear. The only thing I'll miss is having a pair of mesh drink pockets, though the ability to fasten two additional 432 cubic inch sustainment pouches to the side will go a long way toward making me forget their absence.

I don't know if any of you are in the market for "Enuff Backpack" in the bug-out bag department, but this might be something y'all would wanna look into.

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Re: any new changes to your bags ?
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2018, 08:09:27 AM »
Gilgondorin, I like the looks of this backpack. The frame is much improved over old Alice Packs, Molle and all else I have seen. The straps look very strong and well padded. I like the support strap that holds the shoulder straps close across your chest.

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Re: any new changes to your bags ?
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2018, 08:54:47 AM »
I also like that pack.

But my days of bugging out on foot are long gone, so an alice pack still works.

But then again, barring a house fire, I doubt there will come a need to bug out.
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Re: any new changes to your bags ?
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2018, 09:28:20 AM »
That's a LOT of pack!  Lol. Mine seem to be getting smaller. 

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Re: any new changes to your bags ?
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2018, 09:15:04 AM »
In Hurricane Harvey, people really relied on their phones. Seeing this had a pretty strong influence on me. I wonder if my bag changes this year.

I had always thought to keep vital personal data on paper in a BOB, but paper can get destroyed too, and it's hard to exchange that data electronically with people who can help, like insurance companies. I wonder if a strategy would be to have a small, light, cheap Chromebook (no spinning hard drive, so it's tough), and all of the data in the Google (or someone else's) Cloud, some of it local on the Chromebook or on USB, and then try to defend the Chromebook against physical shock and water intrusion. And it needs power, but not much.

They you could get to the data from your phone, Chromebook, or any desktop computer where you might be evacuated to.
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2018, 10:05:19 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2018, 11:09:18 AM »
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2018, 06:16:31 PM »
I had always thought to keep vital personal data on paper in a BOB, but paper can get destroyed too, and it's hard to exchange that data electronically with people who can help, like insurance companies. I wonder if a strategy would be to have a small, light, cheap Chromebook (no spinning hard drive, so it's tough), and all of the data in the Google (or someone else's) Cloud, some of it local on the Chromebook or on USB, and then try to defend the Chromebook against physical shock and water intrusion. And it needs power, but not much.

They you could get to the data from your phone, Chromebook, or any desktop computer where you might be evacuated to.

Gilgondorin might have a solution -- or two, actually -- for that. There's an expensive method, and a cheap method.

The expensive solution: The Panasonic "ToughBook" laptop, some models of which come with two batteries in case one gets shot out, and optional hot-pluggable expansion docks:



Originally designed for use by the military, it's designed to be bounced, knocked, shaken, and carried around without being damaged or destroyed; they may even be spill resistant too. The outer chassis is magnesium alloy and IIRC the drive (spinning platter) is cushioned and shielded against G-shock impacts inside a specially designed shock-cushioned caddy. I'd imagine if you replaced it with an SSD -- which wasn't available back in the early 2000's -- you'd probably make it that much more durable as you already observed. I'm not saying it's the end-all of disaster preparedness, but it'd probably be just a WEE bit more stury than a Chromebook, which I imagine is very delicate owing to its razor thin design. IDK about the newer ones but you can for-sure bag an older dual core model (which will meet all your needs in a SHTF scenario) for $250-$300 or less if you shop hard enough (IIRC I think I saw some somewhere on amazon this morning with dual core processors, 4 GB of RAM, and a 500 GB hard drive for $189).

In fact, there are also bunches available on eBay missing the HDD and HDD caddy that you could buy individually and then rehab yourself by buying your own SSD and installing it that would be WAY cheaper and with a lower hour lifetime usage count than this turn-key i5 model: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Panasonic-Toughbook-CF-C2-12-5in-500GB-Intel-i5-1-8GHz-4GB-AC-Plug-and-Pen/382347585466?epid=170043454&hash=item5905b127ba:g:DKEAAOSwYNxaXXzz

As for the documents, you'd need something similar to Tyvek paper:



The cheap solution: Tyvek makes smaller standard 8.5"x11" letter-sized sheets that can be used in ordinary standard Inkjet (NOT laser) printers. If you're familiar with their house wrap, then you'll know that Tyvek is nearly rip-proof by hand, it's waterproof, it's crumple-resistant, and generally all around very durable in ways that plain paper is not. The only things that would probably ruin it are high heat (it'll melt) or chemicals that destroy plastics... Which is to say if your backpack gets splashed with something like acid/gasoline or lit on fire, standard paper documents wouldn't have stood a chance either, and if you/your pack has been doused in gasoline and/or lit on fire, you potentially have much, MUCH bigger problems to worry about than saving the documents ANYWAY. They also make Tyvek envelops that you have to practically cut open to get your stuff out should you be worried about them all getting scattered over the place.

(Ignore the "Oce ColorWave 600 Plot" name in the video, as I think that's the name of the extra-large format printer they used to print the pictures on the sheet).

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In my defense, I only wanted this pack because I go grocery shopping on foot very often and primarily intend to use my pack to that end. I can't help the fact that it just so happens to probably also be the most rhoided out ultimate bug-out bag ever.

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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2018, 07:04:23 PM »
THREAD BUMP: So I mentioned that if I got my hands on one of those packs that I'd tell you guys about it. Well, the son of a biscuit is finally here and the wait and expense was WELL worth every penny/second.

Size comparison (!):
https://image.ibb.co/eL5X2c/Ruck_7.jpg

Size comparison (!!):
https://image.ibb.co/hPQFNc/Ruck_6.jpg

Plastic frame (the newest Generation IV!!):
https://image.ibb.co/hcat8H/Ruck_5.jpg

Strap thickness:
https://image.ibb.co/cy2vNc/Ruck_4.jpg

Strap width:
https://image.ibb.co/iNHUhc/Ruck_3.jpg

Main cavern:
https://image.ibb.co/np5t8H/Ruck_1.jpg

The old backpack inside the new one:
https://image.ibb.co/gJ4mTH/Ruck_2.jpg

Observations:

1.) We took my old pack and threw it inside the main storage compartment of the new beast and still had plenty of room left over. This not only completely solves the problem of not having enough storage space or width as with the old pack, this carried it a step further by doing a freaking end zone dance.

2.) When I put it on, the 2 lb. plastic skeleton felt like somebody had designed it to fit me; it settled onto my back perfectly. And it almost made this new 12 lb. pack feel lighter on my shoulders/back than my Swiss Gear did even with my portable electronics charger, a locker lock, and a pencil bag full of pens/pencils/markers in it.

3.) As I mentioned previously, heat is a problem. I know this is going to sound stupid but when I first put it on it almost seemed to cool my back off just a little. I predict that the ventilation provided by way of the plastic frame's design is going to be massive game-changer in the coming months.

4.) As I also mentioned previously, the pads of my Swiss Gear's straps needed improvement. For someone carrying nowhere near as much weight as I often did they would be fine, probably very comfy even. But under heavy loads, they started to bite into my shoulders after a while and cause strain. This new pack's straps are fully twice as thick and twice as wide as the Swiss Gear's straps.

5.) There's no comparing the lumbar support cushions to the ones on the Swiss gear, which weren't much thicker than I'd imagine two standard mouse pads stacked on top of each other.

Because I -- very foolishly, I see now -- wasn't sure if even with its generous 5,000 cubic inch main compartment it would be "enuff", I went ahead and bought a pair of sustainment pouched designed to be attached to the exterior of the bag (they are already attached in the first two pictures, so it may make the pack seem a smidgen bigger than usual). However, when I got them ahead of the pack, I realized that 432 cubic inches per individual sustainment pouch alone already translated to enough storage space to fit two whole loaves of bread and a couple of boxes of spaghetti/candy bars (the only thing we had handy to use as a size reference to give you an idea how what fits in there) inside, without having to crush them or force them in there.

Additionally, the rim of the bag has about 3 feet of para-cord used as a cinch that can allow you to draw the mouth shut tightly so that it completely fits under the generous top closure flap of the bag, which itself is lined with nylon netting and doubles as a map compartment. From what I can tell, the entire interior of the bag is water-proofed and therefore nearly impervious to rain, although it gets fully submerge (IE: getting tossed in a river), there's a drainage hole at the bottom of the bag.

As can be expected with a naming designation of "MOLLE II Large Equipment Pack", the exterior is riddled with MOLLE mounting loops... In fact, there are far more present than I predict I'll ever need at this point, even given the fact that I'm seriously considering buying some extra pouches in smaller/varying sizes to keep things like the pencil pouch, the lock, the portable charger, and some other essentials (flash light, etc.) inside since it doesn't really have smaller pockets for that like the Swiss Gear did.

To say I'm already completely amped up is the understatement of the year. I'll get back to you guys once I have actually begun carrying around full loafs of heavy stuff inside of it.

(A word on the supplier: These guys are the bomb. I had a minor issue with the item being listed as pending for like 5 days; however, when I called to find out what was going on on Monday morning, the guy that took my call personally assured me he'd get it sent out and I just got it today, Wednesday. The price for the fully assembled pack was $89, which beats the only other offering I saw from a competitor at $149. If you prefer ACU, they also have a model for $69, although I much prefer the desert tan color. Meanwhile, although sold as 'Used, Good' on their website, the rucksack *I* got looks like it's pretty much unissued; if it was ever treated roughly even in storage by the freight guys, I couldn't tell by looking at it.)
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