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Appleseed groupon
« on: November 11, 2017, 10:33:39 AM »
Hey ya'll here is a chance to get some marksmanship training in at a great price with some history sprinkled on top...

https://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=52456.0

Today (11-11-17) the groupon is $12 for a child and $34 for an adult. Normally it is $20 and $60 for the adult. You can use a 22lr to go thru the Appleseed. They recommend the 10/22 but I have seen other rifles out the time I went. I think they might even have loaner rifles if you call ahead a work it out with them.


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Re: Appleseed groupon
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2017, 03:44:53 PM »
Thank you for this!

Last night I told my gf that I want an Appleseed experience for Christmas if I've earned my way out of the lump of coal club.

And, far as I know, the only rifles banned are M&P 15-22s.  I'm planning to shoot it with a Marlin.

ETA:  she got a coupon for me and another for her son as soon as I got home.
« Last Edit: November 11, 2017, 06:24:00 PM by dred »

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Re: Appleseed groupon
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2017, 07:40:10 PM »
Cool I going to register for the 18th near college station.

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Re: Appleseed groupon
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2017, 08:05:33 PM »
Thank you for this!

Last night I told my gf that I want an Appleseed experience for Christmas if I've earned my way out of the lump of coal club.

And, far as I know, the only rifles banned are M&P 15-22s.  I'm planning to shoot it with a Marlin.

ETA:  she got a coupon for me and another for her son as soon as I got home.

I know the reason for the exclusion of the M&P 15-22 was talked about here once, but I forgot. Why do they not allow the gun?

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Re: Appleseed groupon
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2017, 09:09:16 PM »
If I remember correctly there were some that shot out of battery which could potential an cause injury on the line. I do not think S&W has responded or responded satisfactorily. People are close together. Safety above all else. They run very safe training. You ought to get out there with your kid Ship. I've read and have heard that they will accommodate people who need it.

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Re: Appleseed groupon
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2017, 11:15:19 PM »
Well, that is the rifle I have for him, though. I do remember some initial reports of this issue with that rifle. But, I waited a while after the gun came out, and I saw no reports of continued issues with this problem. O, that led me to finally buy one...

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Re: Appleseed groupon
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2017, 01:30:52 AM »
If you contact them, they probably will have a loaner rifle you and he could use. I had to borrow one when my front sight kept walking out of the dove tail.

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Re: Appleseed groupon
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2017, 05:19:18 AM »
Well, that is the rifle I have for him, though. I do remember some initial reports of this issue with that rifle. But, I waited a while after the gun came out, and I saw no reports of continued issues with this problem. O, that led me to finally buy one...

I found some discussions regarding the 15-22 and why the ban persists at Appleseed.  I think it adds up to an old fashioned standoff. It seems that S&W has actually made modifications which reduce the likelihood of firing out of battery but Appleseed is not positioned to make this evaluation and accept liability for potential problems at their events.  Apoleseed is dug in awaiting an official announcement from S&W which deems some specific rifles as "corrected" or "safe".  Neither player seems likely to budge in this standoff.

The hoot becomes ... your alternative if you'd like to train your son to shoot his M&P 15-22 is to set him up with an AR 15 which shares the 15-22s manual of arms (yes, it's funny - even if a 22lr AR 15 becomes the solution).  Your other alternative is to shift his training from the tacticool to the traditional.  I am of the opinion that he will learn the most if he shoots with his rifle or a duplicate.  Folks do an amazing amount of prep for these Aooleseeds.  My reading suggests that you should bring a zero'd rifle and an understanding of how sighting adjustments are accomplished on your rifle.  That is a bit of learning for the young guy so it'd be most ideal if he got to learn how "his" actual rifle responds.

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Re: Appleseed groupon
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2017, 10:42:08 AM »
Well, i am not in a position financially to buy another 22. I personally do not have much use for a 22 rifle, and I gifted the 15-22 to him in the past. It is a good little gun, and I researched it before I bought it. So, that won't be something he will be doing, I suppose. I do not have the funds for non stop gun purchases after my divorce, like I once did.

Thanks for the information, though :)

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Re: Appleseed groupon
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2017, 12:34:16 PM »
Don't let not having a rifle to use stop you. Look under "Do you rent rifles.."  The skills taught from safety to follow thru are universal

https://appleseedinfo.org/faq/

If they don't have 2 for you to use, PM me I have one I can lend for a weekend That I'm not using it.


I just found out I won't be able to make the 18th due to work. :thumbsdown:

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Re: Appleseed groupon
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2017, 01:27:23 PM »
I have something in austin on the 18th anyway. So, cannot make that one

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Re: Appleseed groupon
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2017, 06:04:20 PM »
Ship ... you are, of course, welcome to borrow a rifle.  There's only one I'd hesitate to give you hold for a couple of months.  All mine are Marlins.  I can put the 795 with Tech Sites back into the factory stock - barrel cut to 16.5" and target crowned so it may make a good option for you.  You'll just want to let me know soon 'cause when I finish setting up the 7000s - the 795 is going to move from the badger stock to an airsoft Tavor stock.

And, my GF and I rolled through Academy today.  I had planned to grab a 795 for her son's Christmas.  Well, I extended an offer to my girlfriend.  Offered to pay half of a 22lr Henry Golden Boy as I was certain he would prefer the lever.  He had early Christmas 'cause we were too excited about it to bother trying to hide it for 2 months.  So, he'll be running a lever at his Aooleseed.

Regarding which Aooleseed - we'll probably be trying to coordinate a December or January shoot.  He needs a little time with the rifle and I've got to make a decision.  I think I'm going to run with glass rather than run a bolt gun or a bullpup - my heavy barrels are both glass only (not drilled for front sights).

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Re: Appleseed groupon
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2017, 09:31:42 PM »
Thanks. I will let you know if I I decide to go.

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Re: Appleseed groupon
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2017, 11:30:34 PM »
So, he'll be running a lever at his Aooleseed.

A lever gun is going to suck for Appleseed. A lot of prone shooting, within time limits that make bolt guns inadvisable.
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Re: Appleseed groupon
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2017, 03:29:10 PM »
Going to work didn't pan out so me and the kid went to the Appleseed. I got my best score of 188 on my fourth of five AQT (army qualification target) which is even better than the first time I went (141). Having a proper rifle sling (USGI) ,that allowed me to loop to my support arm greatly help stabilize my hold improving my score. The 55 second course of fire in the standing to kneeling/sitting position and 65 second standing to prone course ate my lunch mentally as the pressure to get 10 shots off on two and three targets with a mag change worked against me. I will work on those 2 in the very near future. I also need to figure out how best setup my position for the kneeling sitting part. My belly gets in the way and I cant breathe.

This is a fundamentals course. I was worried about my 10 year old light framed girl might not be able handle the rifle. Her shooting experience so far had been shooting steel chicken and pigs off a bench(Addicks) with a single shot rifle and a scope. They taught her start to finish how to sling up, fire the 10/22 and make it safe. And she did it so safely that the instructor made comments on how well she did. Over all this was an engaging 2 day worth of instruction and learning. She and I look forward to the next Appleseed outing.

Dred I think that the lever gun will break position every shot much like the bolt action (there was one there) but all stages should be do-able with practice. I would look into tubular speedloaders if the magazine is tubular on the rifle. You will have to load 2 rounds then 8 rounds. The second (5 and 5) sitting/kneeling and third (3, 3, 4) prone are the ones that are the timed shots

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